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2 months ago

on the subject of "megzag as exes who were originally set up by hades"

A series of tweets from Known Bisexual WallofIllusion made on January 27, 2022

I rly wish it were better integrated into the romance arc that megzag were originally set up by Hades
Without that information you're shipping something different! if they met on an equal footing, approached each other out of mutual interest, that's a completely different story!

and I just love the implications of them having been set up so FUCKIGN much. screams quietly. I love it I LOVE IT it is such a goddamn MESS
I probably make it weirder than it strictly has to be but I LOVE MESS

If this is your first time hearing this, that's exactly what I mean and also here
Attached to this tweet is a screenshot of one of the pre-run flashbacks of Hades, titled FURY. It reads, "One thing the mortals have on us is how quickly they become men. this is the Fury, Megaera. She shall accelerate the process in your case."

a series of tweets from anintensebond made January 27, 2022

The first one, quoting the first tweet in the image above, reads "Guess what I'm home and off the clock now which means it's time for further thoughts on after dark twitter"

because imagine being set up like this but finding common ground, finding connection, in kink roles that run parallel to that whole mess. Imagine connecting intensely on that level and trying to navigate all that shit--without the inherited wisdom of modern kink culture--

And succeeding for a little while, until you don't
And then not seeing each other again until one of you is assigned to kill the other!
And reconnecting under those circumstances!

A series of tweets from Known Bisexual WallofIllusion made Jan 3, 2023

what if your shitty dad set you up with one of his meanest employees so that she could teach you to be a man and then it turned out you were both kind of into something that resembled that dynamic, but you also both resented it, but you're both SO hot and just shockingly into it,

what if that fell apart, because obviously that's going to fall apart, and then some untold time later you realize your whole life was a lie so you go about running away from home, and your dad sends that mean employee after you again, to kill you over and over,

and you go "you know what. this is the perfect time to patch things up with her." and then. you do

they are so much. I love them so, so much. I was talking with a friend about what Hades II is gonna do to my brain and she pointed out that nothing is gonna hit quite like megzag does. and that's true. megzag is just. it's just. they're everything to me

A series of tweets from Known Bisexual WallofIllusion on October 20, 2022

Obviously I'm very into megzag getting back together (although this wasn't always the case) but. Their starting the game as exes is so fantastic.

You look out the courtyard overlook the first time and Zag is just like "well first I have to escape the world's ultimate prison and then I'll have to see my ex 😬"
walks into her chamber and goes "well, this is awkward"

You're right. It WOULD be awkward if the first time you saw the older woman you had a very intense relationship with after your dad set the two of you up hoping she would make you grow up but then you dumped her... was when she was sent to kill you

Honestly that's such a batshit order from Hades. "Remember that son of mine I tried to set you up with? Yeah he's trying to leave home, kill him." Even more 😬 in that there's the underlying continuity of "get him under control." God that's a mess (said with absolute delight)

The game, as far as I recall, doesn't really play up Hades' machinations coming between them nearly as much as I love to, but like. imagine Meg's "Your father sent me, I'd rather be on your bad side than his" after a pattern of her hewing to her duty whenever there was a conflict.

Further tweets from WallofIllusion continuing the above thread.

Like do you think Zag had a moment of "oh I'm WELL aware of that" when she said that? Because I have to think so.

One hint of their past conflict that we do see is Zagreus's attitude toward Megaera's work ethic--eg in talking about Tisiphone Zag goes "so she's got no work-life balance? must be hard" and Meg snaps at him in a way that makes me think he's made similar digs at her before

Which is interesting because as much as the text primarily positions Zag as the one who was immature and said stupid things and needs to apologize--"conflates her work ethic with moral correctness" is literally the flaw listed on Meg's character sheet. He's onto something here.

Once again I am wishing that there was some instance of Megaera seeing where she made her own problems wrt Zagreus, seeing that she shares the blame. We see Nyx nudging her toward this realization with her sisters, but nothing wrt Zag except "I, too, wish for a lot of thigns."

She has a responsibility to own her share of the blame, to name it for Zag's sake. Oh Furies aren't much for apologies? Tough titties, that's the cost of being in a relationship, it's time to get better at it

Further tweets from WallofIllusion on 10/20/2022. The first quotes the tweet starting with "She has a responsibility..." above

Just--sorry--this is SO important in this relationship, one that started with Meg explicitly positioned as superior to Zag, and that continues to feature power play that follows those lines. It is *vital* that they actually deal with each other as equals.

Meg is a perfectionist, and she is divinely inclined towards noticing wrongdoing and punishing it eternally. It is ergo *very uncomfortable* for her to name the ways in which she's fucked up. Even more uncomfortable than it is just to be aware of them.

If some part of your identity is wrapped up in being The Right One or The Good One, you are simultaneously going to be tortured by all your own flaws and very, very defensive of them ever being acknowledged by someone else. And we *see* that this is how Meg understands herself.

So I get her willingness to just elide the part of the process where she apologizes and to focus instead on moving forward, holding herself to stricter standards. But this is done to preserve the ego-conception of herself as superior (to Zag!) & that is something that needs to go.

A final tweet from WallofIllusion on 10/20/2022

And it will be healthier *for her* as well as for the relationship to have the conversation that puts Zag into a position to say "yes, that was awful, that hurt me; I am fully aware of that and still want to be with you anyway."

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I LOVE THEM A NORMAL AMOUNT SIR Their relationship is both so funny and heartfelt to me. i want to hold them and shake them TWO IDIOTS i love my meg so much. my beloved hot mean complex female character i love her i romanced her 3 seperate times i love herrrr i love her the interaction where zag asks meg if shes ever been in love. then meg says yes. and then zag asks who. and she says “shut up” with a smile MEGGG I LOVE YOU MEG

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