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eye motifs and the theme of surveillance i love you eye motifs and the theme of surveillance
there’s a certain number of “bad writers” after which you just have to accept that yeahh that character is just like that now, it doesn’t mean you can’t disregard recent works but it’s canon that sucks, not a certain work or two
the birthday is birthdaying today, most of the problems i’ve been stressing about for at least the past month have been resolved 🙏🙏🙏
basil: henry don't fuck this up for me ok? this guy is special DONT ruin him henry I am begging
henry: loud and clear 👌
dorian after having one conversation with henry:
“not all men” you’re right, Horatio would never
ophelia represents who hamlet truly is whereas laertes represents who he desperately aspires to be.
at the beginning of the play, laertes is able to return to normal life after the funeral/wedding with the approval of both a loving father and claudius, an obvious contrast to the mourning, trapped, and isolated hamlet. ophelia is then shown to be similarly trapped but due to patriarchal forces, with hamlet contributing to her conflict of family, freedom, and love.
when it comes to love caused madness and duty driven vengeance as responses to grief, hamlet chooses the former whilst desperately searching the will to commit the latter. and ophelia and laertes act as personifications of this conflict with the way they naturally embody these ideas respectively. madness is therefore the feminine weakness and vengeance the masculine triumph, right? but no, things only go downhill once hamlet’s desires for revenge cause him to become impulsive in the killing of polonius, and the play’s end can be seen as laertes’ fatal error in letting his rage cloud his judgement on claudius’ scheming. because at the end of the day, whilst ophelia may die before laertes, they all succumb to their ailments of grief.
hamlet was always doomed, not because he was foolish, but because he was trapped between two false representations of mourning, the madness of remembering and the indiscriminately destructive force of revenge. and thus he infects ophelia, laertes, and, in a very shakespearean manner, makes the whole of denmark “rotten”
Comic characters are both so entertaining and so frustrating to analyse because as someone who usually likes to have all my bases covered before I type something out on the Internet it's like:
Batman is misogynistic.*
*Note 1: I am referring to the late 90s to 2000s version of Batman primarily his treatment of Helena Bertinelli and Stephanie Brown as these are the two women I've read most of however he also treats women terribly on a consistent basis no matter which era I'm reading**.
*Note 2: I am aware that he was written by many different writers over decades and it's hard to pin down the real batman however even his creators wrote him as misogynistic due to how acceptable that misogyny was in USA culture at the time he was created.
**I'm also aware that modern batman tends to no longer be written so plainly misogynistic however I find that instead the misogyny has been transferred over to the narrative, what with the erasure and flattening of some female characters and the flanderising of others all attempting to paper over his past treatment of them so that they can pretend he always treated women normally like he does nowadays, which often downplays their history and what they went through because of him
*Note 3: If batman is your favourite character of all time and the version that lives in your head is actually a champion of women's rights then this is not a personal attack on you and your version of him. This is just me analysing the comics I've read
*Note 4: "But Batman's a hero it doesn't make sense for him to be sexist." Yeah in a perfect world DCs flagship hero would not be a child abuser with a history of bigotry unfortunately Batman is a product of his writers and his company and DC has been pretty shit at this stuff since the beginning. I don't think ignoring and denying it helps either it just minimises what the victims actually go through in canon. They write him badly a lot. It's a problem.
reposting from the author of Red Hood 2025’s bluesky. the book will not be copaganda. it won’t change the fact helena canonically hates cops and that jason very likely also hates cops.
if you make that female character less goth as a sign of her ~healing~ or ~improving her life~ I will kill you
make her MORE gloriously dark and over-the-top. she's growing into herself. she's getting comfortable being who she wants to be. do you see the vision. I am crying and throwing things
having anti punitive justice morals sucks because you want to say "man that guy sucks he should get hit with hammers until he dies" but you also want to make it clear you don't think anyone should be put in charge of the 'hit people with hammers until they die" machine.
post-crisis jason loves creating situations that mirror his life and death. in under the hood and brothers in blood he imitates his life as robin, with him sending what looks like a rare book to the manor, making bruce meet him in crime alley where they first met, and stealing another one of dick’s vigilante identities after he’s stopped using it. you can maybe see these as a way to remind alfred, bruce, and dick respectively of who jason truly is- to make them uncomfortably aware of who they are fighting and how much he’s changed. the final confrontation in under the hood, the titans tower incident, and seeing red all recreate the circumstances of his death in differing ways that tries to prove his points to the people he puts in the senario. in uth he recreates the trio of himself, batman (or perhaps a parent with bruce substituting shelia), and the joker with a bomb and tries to get an answer from bruce on if jason’s life is valued more than his murderers, if a parents sense of self is more valuable than their child. in titans tower he catches a robin off guard and beats him until he’s unconscious, having every opportunity to kill him to show how jason wasn’t uniquely a ‘failure’ of the robin mantle or of batman and how although jason was good at combat, it still did not stop him from being uncared for and erased. in seeing red it’s to serve a more general point on child vigilantes and how the dangers they can become victim to are not up to their personal competence, but just a matter of luck and how their mentors refuse to see this and continue to endanger them (with the solution being killing as a means of prevention of these dangers). these parallels with the most extreme focusing on aditf comparisons can show that jason is constantly stuck on his death, trying to contrive meaning in it when it was ultimately meaningless. he’s a spirit that can not rest, constantly stuck in the less than an hour it took for his life to suddenly end and his worldview to completely change. he’s a lawyer trying to constantly prove his innocence in the part of his own victimhood and demand his own justice, trying to erase the blame that everyone puts on him, therefore forcing them to confront the cracks in the worldview that they demeaned him to avoid seeing. it’s only fitting he gets silenced with a blade to the throat and killed by a bomb detonated by the man that destroyed him the first time when his only weapons are his voice and death.
consistently characterised jason todd you will forever exist only in my heart
Abandon all hope ye who enter here - warning you should heed before becoming a JT fan
being doomed by the narrative is cool and all but i like when a character is doomed just by being a fucking idiot. sorry that happened to you but it is entirely your own fault and you could have just chosen to not do all that
iliad characters as florida man headlines bc me and the diomedestruthers were chatting about it;
odysseus:
achilles:
hector:
the ajaxes:
paris:
nestor:
menelaus:
calchas:
agamemnon:
diomedes:
neoptolemus:
“It’s impossible to figure out comic book timelines” - people who are not me and who I cannot relate to. I have crafted this, a coherent, canon-compliant timeline. A quick preface:
This is all for the Post-Crisis (i.e. New Earth/1986-2011/Pre-Flashpoint/pre-reboot/“preboot”/best) continuity.
My main principle here is diegetic evidence from comics >>>> evidence from supplemental materiel (like calendars, timelines from secret files & origins, character encyclopedias, etc)
Second principle is that mentions of ages, birthdays > mentions of time passed > non-birthday month placements (e.g. the start of school years).
We’re going to go youngest to oldest, because it actually makes more sense that way.
Damian is 10-11 at the end of preboot.
Damian’s birthday is not given in Post-Crisis.
Damian is 10 when he becomes Robin, per Batman and Robin vol 1 #1. He is still 10 in Batgirl vol 3 #17. That is the last time I am aware of where his age is said, so he may or may not have turned 11 in the short remaining time before Flashpoint.
Tim is about 7 years older than Damian. He is 17 at the end of preboot.
Tim’s birthday is July 19th (Robin #116).
Tim turned 16 in R#116, before the One Year Later event (where, as you may guess, a year passed), meaning he is at least 17 after OYL. Tim is still 17 in Red Robin #25. Damian becomes Robins between these events, meaning Tim is 17 when Damian is 10, and they are ~7 years apart.
RR#25 is the penultimate issue of Red Robin. Coupled with the significance of an 18th birthday and the fact that we never see one, there is virtually no chance that Tim turned 18 before Flashpoint. He’s 17.
Stephanie is <1 year older than Tim. Steph is 18 at the end of preboot.
Stephanie’s birthday is not given in Post-Crisis.
Stephanie was 15 when she first became Spoiler, per her recounting the story in Secret Origins 80-Page Giant. She is still 15 in Robin #59. In between these events, Tim is stated as 14 in Robin #43. Therefore, Stephanie is older. Stephanie “died” when she is 16, per the last story in Batman Allies Secret Files and Origins, between R#116 and OYL, meaning Tim was also 16. That makes her less than a year older.
She is also one grade above Tim, starting college in Batgirl vol 3 #1, shortly before it’s confirmed by Red Robin #17 that Tim (had he not dropped out) should be a senior in high school.
Stephanie starts college in Batgirl vol 3 #1, and we have every reason to believe she is starting at the "normal” time, making her 18. Since Tim is 17 at the end of Post-Crisis, and Steph is less than a year older, she can’t be any older than 18.
Jason is 1 year, 11 months, 3 days older than Tim. Jason is 19 at the end of preboot.
Jason’s birthday is on August 16th (Detective Comics #790).
No ambiguity here! Tim and Jason are exactly 702 days apart, unless Tim was born on or right after a leap year, making it 703. We know this because Jason’s 18th birthday is on August 16th in DC#790, which occurs after R#116 and Tim’s 16th birthday, but before OYL where Tim turns 17. This means Jason must have turned 18 when Tim was 16.
Jason’s age is never explicitly said after his return. But because his birthday comes after Tim’s, and Tim is still 17 at the end of preboot, we can be completely confident that Jason is still 19.
Cass is 6 months, 21 days older than Jason. Cass is 19-20 at the end of preboot.
Cassandra’s birthday is on January 26th (Batgirl vol 1 #33).
Cass turned 18 in Batgirl #37, shortly before both R#116 and DC#790, meaning before Tim turned 16 and Jason 18. This is well after No Man’s Land, so we can be certain Tim is long-since 15 (see below cut), and since her birthday is in January, we can also be certain Jason is long-since 17. This means Cass is less than a year older than Jason.
Cass’s age is also never said towards the end of preboot, but can be estimated via Jason (via Tim). Knowing Jason is 19 and Cass is 7 months older, we know she must be 19-20 at the end of preboot. However, since her birthday is before Tim’s, we cannot say if it’s passed to be more specific than that.
Dick is probably 6 years, 4 months, 26 days older than Jason (5 years, 10 months, 6 days older than Cass). He is 25-26 at the end of preboot.
Dick’s birthday is complicated, but imo the best bet for Post-Crisis is March 20th (see below cut).
Dick’s age is extremely messy, but here goes. Dick is 19 when Bruce fires him (Batman #419) and Jason is at most 12 when Bruce finds him shortly after (see below). Dick turns 20 while Jason is Robin (Secret Origins vol 2 #13 and New Teen Titans vol 2 #18). Dick is at most 21 in Deathstroke vol 1 Annual #1, after Tim is introduced. This means Dick is 20-21 when Tim is introduced at 13. The ONLY possible way to make all those ages work is for Dick to be ~6.5 years older than Jason, ~8.5 years older than Tim.
Dick’s age is not really said after that, except the vague mention in Nightwing vol 2 #134 that the time around his 17th birthday was “almost ten years” ago. This fits with what his age should logically be based on the difference to Tim, and we can confidently put him at 25-26 at the end of preboot.
A detailed timeline, references, and explanations of what was included or had to be ignored under the cut:
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THE HENCHMINIONS AND RECENTLY RESURRECTED KING YAOI WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE CONNORKYLE FOR SOMEHOW BEATING THE ROUND ONE POLL FODDER ALLEGATIONS.
so the diomedes server told me to post this... im not sorry
the minimal amount of context below the cut
courtesy of @ithacantrickster and @jewishdainix
oh and this is in context of Jorge mentioning Diomedes in his potential Trojan War musical themes
nothing shows a character is evil quite like a good cooking montage
"I asked Grok" "I asked ChatGPT" I asked the Oracle and it told me you're going to kill your father and marry your mom
this initially might seem weird if you haven’t read the play but the magnus archives is very comparable to sophocles’ oedipus the king.
jon is obviously oedipus, the detective of the horrific happenings and unaware he is the true victim and cause of suffering. both become cruel and even tyrannical in their paranoia that they’re being plotted against but the audience mostly feels pity. they both find out that they’re being controlled by higher powers and fates, manipulating them all along for their own purpose, which they might have escaped once but played into due to their ignorance. the major themes in common can be seen as sight/knowledge, especially obvious as they learn about themselves and are heavily associated with eyes. the theban plague is the apocalypse and both can be reversed with the downfall of the protagonist.
Hal and Ollie being queercoded as fuck but the Tumblr/tiktok/ao3 gays not giving a shit about either of them is the funniest thing ever to me.
Like it is played into so much more than most actually popular DC slash ships, but I borderline hesitate it to call it queerbaiting because they're so unsuccessful at actually baiting shippers. I swear they get more attention when they just have batman and superman stand in the same room.
considering jason’s relationship with vengeance, its apparent that bruce just made it worse at every stage.
when bruce first found jason, he didn’t have any inclination towards vengeance because he didn’t know about the death of his father by the hands of two face, and he may never have found out if bruce had not investigated and put it in the batcomputer.
and jason’s first reaction to finding out about the death of his father was NOT to sneak out and find two face, it was to sleep all day and give an attitude to bruce. the reason why jason wasn’t open to talking to bruce about the death of willis was because bruce hid it from him!! for 6 months!! also when jason did go out and attempt to kill two face he did so with batman and as robin. bruce facilitated his vengeance by giving him the means to try through robin when jason probably wouldn’t otherwise. and by the end of #411 jason proves that he isn’t driven by revenge and won’t be in the future because he’s easily snapped out of it (it’s later shown to be not that simple in the detective comics but overall it’s not the main motivator for jason). you can give bruce credit here and say it’s because jason had robin and bruce’s influence but jason changed his mind after bruce said it was very difficult to ‘temper revenge into justice’ which i don’t think was the greatest inspiration speech.
there’s batman #425 where jason is blamed for the revenge of felipe garzonas father which implies that vengeance of the father is an unavoidable reaction to the death of a son (which yeah you can see that lesson was learnt by jason later on).
then comes death in the family which is not about vengeance but leads to jason wanting it in its aftermath. whilst death in the family is a contrived series of coincidences for quite a bit of its plot, bruce definitely caused the set up of it. if bruce wasn’t an insufficient parent jason wouldn’t have been so eager to find his mother or would have at least talked to bruce about it first. but because bruce took away robin without actually discussing it with jason first, jason obviously acted like he didn’t have anyone to emotionally support him, especially considering that bruce is shown to rely on batman and robin to parent his children and he just took that away. bruce continues to give more evidence in jason’s belief that he can’t be relied on by prioritising stopping the joker over helping jason when first finding him, he later fixes this by deciding to help and giving robin back but that was only after first deciding the joker was more important twice before.
and all of this leads to hush and under the hood where jason is forged by vengeance, even finding the only meaning in his life to be it as said in lost days. he lives and even dies by the hand of bruce for ‘vengeance.’
when seeing the purpose of batman and robin as a way to transform the desire for revenge into justice, it’s a devastating subversion to see what happened to jason because bruce needed to justify adopting the next child he saw who looked a little bit like the son he drove away by firing him.
“DC stands for disregard canon” but meant in the way of cutting out bad/bigoted writing and retcons i disagree with, not never consuming the original media
odyssey has it 29 times illiad has it 32 times overall homer writes the word thighs a total of 61 times
the more you know.
hey guys have you ever heard of THE CHARACTER. i’m thinking about THE CHARACTER. honestly can’t even get shit done because i’m thinking about THE CHARACTER. i’m listening to a song and imagining THE CHARACTER. all i know and love is THE CHARACTER