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all the people saying there's a lot of changes made between the movies and the comics and that yelena is not necessarily aroace in the mcu would have had a different reaction if she was a lesbian in the comics and being shipped with a man
None of the OG Avengers menstruate in canon.
Was Noone Gonna tell me This Exists?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1082160920627798018
Can we talk about the 80s kiddie kimoyo bracelet on T’Challa’s wrist?
Like, first of all, it’s cute. And also is a small hint of how even advanced Wakandan technology is still evolving in the Universe.
They probably have some communication device, designed for eight year olds, and possibly had a tracker of some kind. Because T’Chaka knew that T’Challa had been kidnapped by an alien spaceship.
These bracelets probably didn’t have as much range in the 80s, because by the time the Wakandans realized that T’Challa had gone out of their borders, they couldn’t communicate with him to come back. Nor was he able to call them later to find out what was going on at home. Or to check if they were really dead. [Shuri later makes unlimited range communication devices in 2016]
What if...T'challa became a Star-Lord ?
Marvel What If (2021) | Dir. Bryan Andrews
^^^^
It's so crazy how people talk about how weird it is that Wakanda is so technologically advanced and still using spears and how that's a stereotype when Asgardians literally still use swords and armor and they are supposed to be light years ahead of Earth.
Like did yall not catch how the spears used vibranium to make them a more powerful weapon.
What weapon should they have used? Guns? As Okoye said, so primitive.
Spear fighting requires so much more training and skill than firing a gun.
Why should they abandon their culture and roots so they can look more technologically advanced? Like they literally infuse culture and tech in everything in Wakanda. From the Border tribe's clothing doubling as shields, to T'Challa's necklace also containing the black panther suit, to the spears being able to be used for close and father range combat. Even the Kimoyo beads. Culture and technology.
No one talks about how ridiculous it is for Asgard to be using old weapons but be technologically advanced so why is Wakanda weird? Why would you change what's been working for years? Like if it works it works.
To further the point about T’Chaka’s father’s spouse being from the river tribe is that-
if you look at the general pattern of the river tribe dresses (parallel stripes, hues of green and brown)
you see similar patterns in T’Chaka’s afterlife outfit...
And T’Challa?
He wears a distinctly North African (achkan?) which matches up with the North African elements of the merchant tribe, where i presume Ramonda is from:
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Even over here, we see on the far right in the background, a guy in a mining tribe outfit like the one below:
So their ancestral spirit wardrobe is basically from their mother’s side...
Black Panther Headcanon!
Remember T’Chaka’s suit from the flash back scene of Black Panther?
And that sash, which he wore over his suit.
And then the Merchant tribe’s dresses
And then Ramonda’s costumes, especially this one
They all have a purple fabric and gold metallic embroidery in it, and I’m assuming that it’s a traditional style of the merchant tribe, since we see it in multiple merchant tribe costumes. Most of their clothes have something purple with gold on it.
Since the spouse of the Ruler of Wakanda would be from one of the four tribes, there is a ¼ + ½ chance is that Ramonda is from the Merchant tribe. In the comics, Ramonda wasn’t from Wakanda, but in the movie, considering the costume details, she could have had a major connection.
My main headcanon is that when a Black Panther gets married, they wear a sash in honor of their spouse’s tribe along with their royal ensembles as a mark of marriage.
Similarly, a traditional headdress is worn by their spouse as a mark of marriage and status as the Royal Consort.
Looking closer at T’Chaka’s sash, there’s a cream, black and green pattern done down the middle, which looks a lot like the colour palette of the River Tribe. (Below)
I think that could stand for the tribe of his father’s spouse, who may have come from the river tribe. In addition, I believe that T’Challa’s clean suit look with with no extra accessories would change if he happened to get married.
I don’t know if that will ever happen now in the movies, but it would have been awesome to see T’Challa and Nakia’s wedding and a ceremony where they get dressed up as a married couple for the first time.
I’m imagining T’Challa in his sash with the River Tribe’s colours (Cream, Green and minimal black), embroidered cowries and a purple/gold pattern down the middle (for his mother). And then Nakia wearing a green gown and embroidered cowries with her headdress.
Damn I really wish I had that scene and I’m sad now.
Also thinking of the music that might have been included. With drums and singing and all.
I’m crying-
Okoye lost T’Challa twice. Yes, I’m saying twice because she doesn’t know that he survived yet in the first gif. Look at the first time and compare it to the second. She has composure during the Warrior Falls fight but completely loses it when T’Challa turns into ash. She lost her king twice. And no one is talking about it.
This is actually a wonderful explanation I have been blessed to come across.
Why isn’t Thanos a Sympathetic Villain?
Asked no one who follows me, ever, but I’m here to answer it.
Why is Loki a Sympathetic Villain?
Loki’s primary motivations in the MCU are all linked to interpersonal relationships and the personality, instincts, beliefs, etc. those interpersonal relationships have fostered. When Loki kills Laufey it isn’t because Loki is evil or Laufey is evil, it’s because Loki believes Laufey abandoned him to die. When he turns the Bifrost on Jotunheim it is not because his ideology demands he obliterate an evil, monstrous race, it’s because Loki wants to prove his worth to Odin. It’s because Thor used to say the same thing, and Odin pushed back because war would hurt Asgard, too. But Loki’s method won’t get any Asgardians killed. Odin should find value in Loki’s genius.
We do not sympathize with Loki’s evil actions, but we can recognize that he wasn’t born evil. He does evil because he is a victim of parental abuse desperate to feel accepted and valued, but constantly signaled (and then flat out told due to the discovery of his heritage) that he is unworthy and will never measure up. We see the path that led him to evil and the path that led him to no longer trust his family and, in particular, Thor’s love. That’s why, to many, he’s sympathetic. That’s why he’s an excellent villain. Even people who don’t sympathize should be able to recognize that there’s more going on than Loki just being a villain or evil.
Why is Killmonger a Sympathetic Villain?
Killmonger’s primary motivations are linked to his ideology. He believes that grave injustices have been and continue to be committed against Black people across the global, and he desires to free these oppressed people from that injustice and oppression.
The reason he’s sympathetic is that he’s right (to a point). Historically and currently, Black people across the globe face systemic oppression and exploitation that perpetuates poverty and violence in communities and countries. So, we sympathize with Killmonger wanting liberation for his people (or we should), and we can even see how growing up surrounded by violence got him to a point where violence seems like the only solution, even if (I hope this isn’t too controversial) we know that a global race war isn’t the first, best solution (though, to be clear, the movie presenting nonviolence vs. violence and determining violence isn’t a solution is simplifying the issues).
Does Not Thanos Earn Sympathy Through Interpersonal Relationships?
Uh, no. Duh it’s a no. He’s the abuser.
I’m starting with this one because it’s far more simple to discuss. Even though Thanos isn’t motivated by interpersonal relationships (his ideology is more important than Gamora) the movie, arguably, asks the audience to sympathize with him over having to sacrifice his daughter. So sympathetic, right, that he loses the child he loves most to his cause?
Again, no. Thanos has manipulated and mutilated his children, including Gamora. They have been tools for Thanos from the start. Thanos is the one with all the power in their relationship. Him sacrificing her is just that, again. It’s the action of an abuser who has always used his children to further his ideology. Feeling sympathy for that makes no sense. Black Panther knew this. That’s why that film never asks us to feel bad for the characters that sacrifice their loved ones for their ideologies, even when those ideologies are somewhat sympathetic. We are not expected to feel sympathy for T’Chaka killing his brother because, even though we can understand what drives T’Chaka to keep Wakanda from the outside world, we know that he has the power to help oppressed people across the world. His brother is making that point. We are definitely not expected to feel sympathy for Killmonger when he kills his girlfriend, even though we know he’s sacrificing her so he can achieve the goal of liberating people from oppression/oppressive circumstances. Expecting us to feel sympathy for the villain sacrificing their interpersonal relationships for ideology is a hard sell because, even if we can sympathize with the ideology, we’re not supposed to sympathize with their methods. Otherwise they’d be the hero.
Does Not Thanos Earn Sympathy Through Ideology?
Thanos believes that the universe possesses a finite amount of resources and that to prevent the extinction of the diverse species across that universe he must kill half of every population.
Titan… *sigh* Titan suffered from a shortage of resources. Thanos loved his people and wanted to save them, but instead he witnessed their demise. That’s why he believes it’s his destiny to never let that happen to another species. In theory, we should be able to feel some level of sympathy for a person who lived through the extinction of their people.
Except, the first and only solution Thanos offered to “save” his people was mass murder.
Thanos: Titan was like most planets; too many mouths, not enough to go around. And when we faced extinction, I offered a solution. Dr. Strange: Genocide. Thanos: But random. Dispassionate, fair to rich and poor alike. They called me a madman. And what I predicted came to pass.
(Let’s ignore that Thanos explicitly mentions there were rich and poor people, so resources also weren’t being distributed evenly among his people.)
This torpedoes any small amount of sympathy we might feel for him. I simply cannot sympathize with a person whose first, best solution is mass murder. Plus, this plan would not work long term. It would have to be repeated every time the population hit an unsustainable level. And if any of the finite resources needed for survival were truly finite (not just annually finite or whatever we might consider crop yields), then that would occur often, because consumption of those resources continues even at a slower pace.
Garnering sympathy for Thanos’ ideology has, therefore, stumbled at the first hurdle. We can’t even be on board with the ideology based on Thanos’ experiences on Titan, because Thanos was an idiot advocating mass murder rather than offering legitimate solutions to a terrifying problem.
The idiocy continues when he casts his net wider. Let’s examine, “Titan was like most planets; too many mouths, not enough to go around,” in more detail. That’s an incorrect statement. None of the planets we’ve seen in the MCU appear to have this problem. None of them. Earth does not have this problem. It’s ridiculously easy to debunk the overpopulation myth. The problem we have now is with distribution. Rich people and countries have more than poor people and countries. There is enough food for all our mouths and massive amounts of it go to waste because it’s more profitable to discard it than to give it away.
How are we supposed to feel sympathy for someone whose ideology is based on nothing but, seemingly, resentfulness that his own people didn’t get on board with his mass murder idea? His ideology wouldn’t have saved his people, and it won’t save any one else in the universe because it’s utterly irrelevant to the troubles other species are contending with.
And, of course, HE KILLS HALF OF THE PLANTS AND THE ANIMALS, THUS MAKING THE RATIO OF PEOPLE TO FOOD RESOURCES THE FUCKING SAME!!!
There’s no point where you can feel sympathy for Thanos due to ideology. He makes no good points, except for the ones constructed by the movie. Oh, Gamora’s planet’s doing great? I guess that means Thanos has a point! Oh, his people didn’t run with his plan and then they all died? I guess that means Thanos has a point! None of this sits right if you know anything about the subject matter being addressed.
TL;DR
We can neither sympathize with Thanos through his interpersonal relationships because he is the abuser with all the power, nor through his ideology because he has not identified a legitimate problem and his only solution is randomized mass murder, which does not solve the “problem” he’s identified.
Why I still find Killmonger fascinating after THREE years of the movie being out is that-
He had all the tropes given to heroes, while still being a full-on psychopathic villain.
1) His parents had a forbidden love story: N’Jobu was sent to Oakland as a spy. Starting a family was definitely out of question because fraternizing with and having attachments to a foreigner would have been against the War Dog code.
2) He only heard stories about Wakanda: This might not be exactly a hero trope, but this was what actually made me think that he was the hero in this story. Being disconnected from their homeland/ family is one major point that heroes usually have.
3) He saw his father die... at the hands of a powerful guy: Well, not exactly, but finding the dead body of your parent is a popular scene in hero movies. Either that, or hearing about your parent’s death. And he knew who did it.
4) Wait- He’s an orphan: This actually broke my heart, considering how his mom was killed too, through systemic oppression. They don’t talk about it, but all the implications show that this wasn’t even like having you mother die of something you can’t control (disease, accidents). He knew about Wakanda’s wealth and prosperity and had to helplessly watch his mother suffer because his country didn’t even bother to do anything. At this point, you can’t blame him for wanting the throne.
5) He grew up in a harsh environment, but got to the top anyway: “Graduated Annapolis, age 19, MIT for grad school” is no small thing for anyone let alone a literal kid thrown out into world without anyone to be there for him. He was the best, no doubt, securing top ranks in the military and earning himself a name. All those unseen training montages usually belong in heroes’ stories.
6) He has an heirloom from his (dead) father: That Ring was just a Hero Trope™. (Think- invisibility cloak, lightsaber, sword, mithril shirt, etc...)
7) He Returned To His Home™ to unseat his counterpart: ... who is usually the undeserving one, and let’s face it - T’Challa is technically the Prince Who Had Everything growing up, and N’Jadaka is the one who struggled more. Though eventually, he proved to be a monster and a neat product of his environment and experiences, it’s hard to not see his side.
8) He got a few rebels on his side: In most stories, you find that all the Rebels and the Resistances make up the allies of the hero, (*cough* starwars,harrypotter,hungergames *cough*) But in Black Panther, we see the villain playing the most justified part in a dethroning. To fit into that trope better, he specifically got W’Kabi, a man avenging his family, on his side.
9) His death was emotional: Most villains don’t get that while still on their villainous arc. Killmonger did not necessarily go back on what he was shown to believe in, but rather caused his opponent to change for the better. Plus, his defeat was shot as if it was centered around him rather than T’Challa, putting more weight into his recurring hero tropes.
10) People’s lives became better because of him: You can’t see that at first glance, but think about it- Wakanda was finally forced to hold itself morally accountable; People started receiving aid all around the globe; Because of that, Nakia was able to pursue her aspiration of helping the underprivileged while reconciling with the man she loved. It’s sad that he didn’t actually get to see the Outreach Centers or live the life he deserved, and that sounds a lot like people living their life oblivious to an unsung hero. Though his intentions were far from that, it’s safe to say that he was a necessary evil in the story.
ANYONE WONDER IF Wakanda made new social media accounts after coming out to the world?
Or at least a Youtube channel? To post documentaries?
Shuri would definitely already had access to online platforms once she found out about them (vine referencess), but what about official accounts?
Like, T’Challa would have a twitter? SMoW (Sovereign Monarch of Wakanda)?
Or a website dedicated to the International Wakandan Outreach Program?
Please rb with ideas//!!
LUPITA WITH THAT UMMBRELLA IS SO CUTE I CAN’T-
AAAAAHH
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I just realized...
T’Challa’s protection spell is in the shape of his panther suit even when he is Star Lord....
Plus, comic accurate headwings for Thor....
In the pattern of how things are done in Wakanda, it should look like this..
So they gave us a close up of Killmonger’s War Dog tattoo...
And I think it’s supposed to read “WAR DOG”
But if you look at this, It spells “WAA Dbe3l”…
What is that even supposed to-
So they gave us a close up of Killmonger’s War Dog tattoo...
And I think it’s supposed to read “WAR DOG”
But if you look at this, It spells “WAA Dbe3Gl”...
What is that even supposed to-
Ok I never noticed that they were holding hands this entire time-
I stan one (1) power couple-
Have ya’ll ever noticed-
-that T’Challa could be the fashion sibling?
I mean, this man couldn’t walk into the UN without stealing the show with that shawl-
DJ Snake’s “Run It” for Shang Chi just dropped and I noticed something...
See what Rick Ross is wearing??
That’s the jacket version of T’Challa’s achkan from Black Panther. Nice one.
(What If...? S1E5 spoilers!)
Chadwick probably even knew that he wasn’t going to stay with us for long...
Black Panther Headcanon!
Remember T’Chaka’s suit from the flash back scene of Black Panther?
And that sash, which he wore over his suit.
And then the Merchant tribe’s dresses
And then Ramonda’s costumes, especially this one
They all have a purple fabric and gold metallic embroidery in it, and I’m assuming that it’s a traditional style of the merchant tribe, since we see it in multiple merchant tribe costumes. Most of their clothes have something purple with gold on it.
Since the spouse of the Ruler of Wakanda would be from one of the four tribes, there is a 1/4 + 1/2 chance is that Ramonda is from the Merchant tribe. In the comics, Ramonda wasn’t from Wakanda, but in the movie, considering the costume details, she could have had a major connection.
My main headcanon is that when a Black Panther gets married, they wear a sash in honor of their spouse’s tribe along with their royal ensembles as a mark of marriage.
Similarly, a traditional headdress is worn by their spouse as a mark of marriage and status as the Royal Consort.
Looking closer at T’Chaka’s sash, there’s a cream, black and green pattern done down the middle, which looks a lot like the colour palette of the River Tribe. (Below)
I think that could stand for the tribe of his father’s spouse, who may have come from the river tribe. In addition, I believe that T’Challa’s clean suit look with with no extra accessories would change if he happened to get married.
I don’t know if that will ever happen now in the movies, but it would have been awesome to see T’Challa and Nakia’s wedding and a ceremony where they get dressed up as a married couple for the first time.
I’m imagining T’Challa in his sash with the River Tribe’s colours (Cream, Green and minimal black), embroidered cowries and a purple/gold pattern down the middle (for his mother). And then Nakia wearing a green gown and embroidered cowries with her headdress.
Damn I really wish I had that scene and I’m sad now.
Also thinking of the music that might have been included. With drums and singing and all.