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I was just thinking about this if you had rewritten Slugterra accession what would you do differently? Would you bring back Dr.Blakk as the main antagonist? Or would you bring in a new villain for the Shane gang to go up against? Let me know what you think.
soory yall ive been so busyyyy BUT
Blakk would have a lasting effect, but he would not be the main antagonist. at least not for a while. cause i think this show could have been so loooooooong....id introduce blakk in like season 7 lol. honestly, slugterra has a rich tapestry of small compelling villains, with some being more important than others depending on their alliances. i'd bring back the old classics (saturday, cc, twist, maurice, blite, you name it) and also add new players - ones that grew undr blakk's shadow, ones that were released/escaped from prison for some reason, ones that hid to wait out blakk's plans and now finally feel ready to make their debut, or even some legendary evil ppl that in age have come to terrorize one cavern and, compacent, their terror hasn't been on wider slugterra's radar. and hell, it could be people killing, or controlling, but it could also be small stuff again, like a kid abusing slugs, or other implicited abusive stuff going on (cause kid show, but cmonnnn, its slugterra, they are so good at being like "yes ur honor this dude was mind controlled for 20 years and we simply let the audience look into the explicit behaviors that we animated for him afterwards" they could so do that w harsher subjects)
i would do...everything different. keep the gang together. have everyone - especially eli - grapple with the concept of how to move forward and make slugterra better - stopping those slug markets and whatnot - while also contending with their trust issues (and possible depression, in elis case) after tad. out with the universal slug or whatever, bring in wtf dana's been doing with the shadow walker - maybe shes been exploring shadow clan territory in the south and calls the shane gang when she finds new shane secrets/treasure. maybe his could be a segmented like a show - some episodes are the gang trying to fight crime but also help people out, supporting programs that make the world better, and the other half is involving a tense plotline with the shadow clan about uncovering the stuff dana found (maybe a secret passage to the back end of the deep caverns, in a cavern that's thin enough to where the shadow walker could just barely manage to take a traveler to the other side). In both plots, old and new characters get introduced and recontextualized in the absence of Blakk, especially Twist, who would probably come back in the context of "hey, why not help out the gang covertly into finding will and rescuing him so i can kill him or something!", getting more evil from his time and trauma w blakk but then as eli's hero worship of the shanes and will decays further it prompts him to come back to the good side?
That was a rant but yeah - came up w that on the fly. But I actally wrote a little of a story involving after ItS - one called "I'm sorry, I dont know what the moon looks like tonight", whose later scenes take place after ItS, and TEAL "To End A Legacy" (which is my first slgterra fanfic) where i continued the slugterra plot....in a really dark way...and IM GONNA FINISH IT 2025 IS THE YEAR I FINISH THINGS I SWEAR-
find me on ao3 at Mister Rose, i havent done stuff in a little bit but ill come back i always do (post 2017)
unironically? Avatar the last airbender. instead of slugs channeling powers, it would be humans, who can only do the core 4 of the elementals, and do not have the chi necessary for the energy elementals power (though the more powerful benders can utilize some of it). eli's family are non-benders, hence them mainly being heroes in the underground. Interesting creatures live above and below the ground. Yang could have been a fire bender, hence the origins of slug-fu. maybe both the shanes and the yangs have had the avatar in their family at some point, and their lasting legacy is why they became the protectors. shanes have to stop the 2 worlds from meeting, and from the people of slugterra learning how to bend, since the magic of slugterra elevates the bending power, and people would get hurt from bad actors, or people trying to learn and hurting themselves. And a plot could be that some air nomads escaped the genocide into slugterra discreetly, or that during the 100 years, the shanes have had to convince MANY refugees to not practice bending in from of the slugterran natives, or damn what if the fire nation found slugterra and attacked? oooo, and what if as part of avatar training, the avatar and trusted advisors alone know of the shane's mission, so aang meets shanes from 100 years ago but dont learn where the entrance is, and due to 100 years of war the shane family has dwindled to will and young eli, and eli as a non-bender helps out in the war against Ozai, and then in return a few years later aang helps eli when he's the only one left and keeps watch of the surface for him, and even goes down to slugterra for the s2 finale, or defeating YET ANOTHER emperor, or teaching junjie to fire bend sometimes, and maybe tad could be sent back up to help a sligtly older aang instead of fall into the deep caverns, im thinking too hard about this-
If you wanted to do a crossover with slugterra what show would you do? For me personally it’s storm hawks ( obviously) and the other one is Ninjago ( because of the elements and the ninjas)
What do you think?
Okay- yeah crossover between SH and Ninjago would be fun, I actually remember reading a Danny Phantom and Slugterra Cossover fic(it was short lived but cool concepts-)
there is a three way Crossover fic series between Slugterra, MaxSteel(2013) and Hot Wheels: Battle Force Five. on fanfic.net
dwouebihia;ojs Cossover fics/one shots are fun as hell
but if there was like, one thing, I would pick for my own crossover, it would be Martin Mystery
the vibe of that show just fits, and because Martin Mystery is canonically in the Totally Spies universe(and by proxy The Amazing Spiez) that means my girls, kids, and mystery solving team can find themselves down in Slugterra as well, trying to stop a supervillain along side the Shane Gang from trying to take over/exploit the 99 Caverns
What are your thoughts about the southern and northern caverns if the show had kept on going? And what would you think they would look like in your perspective?
aye, thanks for the question!
the north and southern caverns....if u mean like as new realms entirely, imma be so real for a second, im not too big on headcanoning other worlds (and oc's either) for slugterra. like i love the creativity, but theres so much in canon to draw from and expand that i feel very, very aimless and antithetical against the show for really giving the idea much thought. the west and the east cover all the caverns of the world for me, and theres already SO MUCH space for headcanon-ing different cultures and characters there, especially in the eastern caverns! not to mention the burning world, which can kinda be as close to real life as we want it to be.
the northern and southern caverns do exist tho - they are the northern and southern caverns of the 2 worlds we know of in the show in my head, and the wikis dont say much about them. They are more barren than the more central caverns due to the extreme temperatures and historically being less of a place to live, and more as a place for researchers (and capitalists?) to explore and study. Tis could also be a hub for the explorer types like Andre from a distant shore, and hunting big creature types (because im sure the less populous creatures we see in the show live in those outskirts, hence why we only see a cyclops in a city center once in the west). I also like the idea of slugterran history from long ago happening there, and it being a bit of a taboo to explore (except for the explorers themselves, who can point to this taboo danger to explain how cool they are and ask for funding) - in my fic We Can Be Saved (WHICH I WILL FINISH) i go into a northern cavern mentioned in one of the mobile games and it was really fun adding slugterra history to Bonny Cavern, webbing the history of boon docs with the shadow clan, the shanes, cave trolls, and humans desperate for a healer.
I havent thought as much about the southern caverns, but I imagine large sentient bugs being more popular there (like the spiders from slug-fu showdown, the cave of which i hc to be in the south), and it being so dangerous that only experienced hunters go there for game. I especially like the detail in slugterra that all the caverns implied to be more southern dont have alot of life and flora - and most notably, a water source. living beings like not traveling for water! and apparently Mr. Saturday is from there, and considering his accent, using a staff, and face paint, maybe there is a secluded cavern of humans down there who live pretty differently! we know the cave trolls and moles have some different clans, i can see a slugterra where most humans banded together, but one or 2 caverns stayed pretty tight-knit and away from broad society, mainly the ones on the frays near the end of the world/shadow clan territory (that dont provide mining/exploration oppurtunnity for the main culture, of course, like the king of sling's cavern). I also like the idea of there being less roads in the north and south, due to the cave trolls knowing less about the inhabitants there and not making deals to pave their caverns, so naturally the average slugterran citizen won't off-road to these places without very good reason.
and mostly, i think there'd be more shane and shadow clan secrets, especially in the northeast edge of the map. theres a reason the king of sling and the town there is sparse, but very much alive. i can totally see there being a shane hideout nearby.
also? none of any of this applies to the eastern north and south caverns. from what little we saw, the eastern shadow clan actually is okay with other species's, and the groups are more integrated, which means that the cultures on the fringes of their map may be anything from spiritually relevant caverns to just regular cities with roads and relations to the rest of their world. no matter what hc's i'd go with, i'd want to keep this contrast, as i think this really highlights what slugterra is good at - implicitely making the shanes and their world an incredibly sketcky topic if you think and compare it to other places for too long.
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I loveeee it! I also think Quentin is a strong ally cause he...besides Blakk sometimes...is the only antagonist of the whole show that actually sought to mentally hurt his opponents?
like w Eli. Eli is at his cruelest, most cop-ish state in Quentin's first episode. Why? Because in their first ever interaction, Quentin's shoving in Eli's face how he's taking all his moves from his dad who failed and that Eli's no shane, and I think that hit a sore spot. College kids are brutal and can really burn others? And Quentin's a perfect example. He can reallllly get under peoples skin. His tech and recon would be great, but I wouldn't underestimate just how much of a dueling menace he can be too - him against cc, mocking his newfound allegiance to blakk. Against twist, calling twist a coward with no morals and only 1 good slug and a dead dad. Locke and load, calling them stupid over and over again. Cruel but semi-deserved and, above all else, kinda funny as hell. There's some banter that could really make these villains use their blakk employee mental health insturance and I love the possibilities.
Going back to redeem characters who else do you know would be redeemed? And why?
Honest?
I don't really know-
There are a lot of fun minor antagonists, all of which have their own charm.
But if I had to pick just one, it's would be Quintin
Quintin, as explained in Robo Slugs, wasn't originally a bad guy. He was just traumatized by being trapped in that Slug Pit as a kid.
He ended up with what if think was a justified phobia of Slug, thus leading him to make the Robo Slugs. But because of Slugterras' overall culture around Slug's, he was constantly laughed at and mocked for wanting to make the artificial Slugs. No one took him seriously.
Him going full Power Rangers Villain in Futuria Cavern was just, him providing his inventions where not a waste of time.
I mean, he did go about it the wrong way, don't get me wrong, Quintin was so in the wrong, but he wouldn't have been pushed to that point if the other scientist fucking listened to him, and actually took into account just how much research and innovation went into Robo Slugs(they are objectively cool)
And by the end of Robo Slugs, when Eli dumped that Slugs on Quintin, and the Slugs saved him from being crushed by the Mecha Mechas, Quintin, seemingly gets over his fear, at least enough that when he's recruited by Blakk, he doesn't mined working in close proximity to Ghouls, or firing them out of the Titan Tank.
I believe the reason Quintin sides with Blakk isn't just because Blakk bailed him out of jail time, but because Blakk, actually was interested in his work and what he was capable of, in comparison to the scientist from Futuria Cavern who brushed him off. Which is why he was so willing to make the Titan Tanks to begin with and probably even help refine the Gatling Blasters.
Should Quintin be redeemed, I want it to start off with him realizing, Blakk don't actually care about him, but what he brings to the table, his inventions.
Blakk piling on more and more and more work on Quintin, to the point Quintin asks for, like a few hours to just sleep and Blakk snapps threatening to haul Quintin back to Stalagmight 17 himself if he doesn't comply.
This leds to Quintin doing small acts of rebellion by delaying projects, putting in more obvious weak points in the Titan Tanks, to full on sabotage.
Eventually, probably around the aftermath of 'Light as Day' while Blakk is still in the Deep Caverns, Quintin takes as much shit as he can, and leaves Blakk Industries, settles in a new Cavern under a new identity, and lives a more regular life as a local inventor who helps out fixing stuff, and making things.
I see him being an informant as well, like leaking info anonymously about Blakk Industries on forums for the Shane Gang or anyone else who wants to take the fight to Blakk themselves.
this actually opens up quite a world of potential. C.C., in the trade, really makes it seem like he was chill being a good duelist but then saw the writing on the wall and wanted to be on the winning side of things (not unlike twist???). But maybe, after trying to be super chill w his coworkers but also seeing some of the inner workings he's like "wait....maybe I can be famous and have fun some other way, I don't think this world they're building would let me be that prominent a figure" he changes sides. I don't see him living w the gang, or even changing sides that long before s2's finale, but as a rich guy going w the flow, having a tiny little, lukewarm change of heart? He could absolutely end up on the good side, and once he's there in a shallow way could realize "oh these kids got a heart and soul, it's kinda nice actually", and start having a bit of a backbone!
Also I'm so real, I could see Mario and C.C. having a friendly duel rivalry? Mario, charismatic and a marksman to the bone. C.C., rich and also in the public eye, who may fare better with team shooting matches. For all we know, maybe they DID have a rivalry pre-Mario's pizza era. fuck it, will x Blakk is mainstream and CC x Mario enemies to lovers is the true rare pair -
Going back to Eli giving people a second chance( like twist and tad) I want C.C to also be redeemed. Why because 1. He is a really good slinger and 2. He would give the Shane gang info on old buildings that Blakk used for ghouling slugs.
And if he were to be in the Shane gang how would that play out?
Oh my gosh-
I think everyone(minus Eli) would be, suspicious.
If C.C. decided, "Oh yeah, hey, you know what, Blakk is actually insane, I need an out like NOW" and the joined the Shane Gang, I think the distrust will play out differently depending on when he joins up with them.
If C.C. joins Pre The New Kid, Kord, Trixie and Pronto are going to be sus of him. Because you know what, C.C. literally did side with Blakk for the paycheck, and the power, so him suddenly switching sides is, you know, suspicious. Eli obviously, isn't all that suspicious of C.C. and genuinely thinks the older Slinger is trying to be a better person.
If he joins post The New Kid, no one, is having it, especially if the switch happens post Lightwell.
They got betrayed, so badly, that it's hard for the Gang to trust someone they don't already know, and are positive won't work for Blakk willingly.
Eli is hesitant it trust C.C. after everything without Twist, and after what happens to Burpy. But if he can see C.C. being sincere, and actually want to fix things, he'll entertain C.C. joining them on missions, but not living in the Hideout, till everyone is on the same page.
And when they do finally trust C.C. it's honestly nice having a former pro circuit Duelist on the team.
(Add another brother to the list for Eli, lmao)
C.C. is also apparently a Nepo baby, as in, he's rich, so, excuse to see his rich family, and him casually just, pay for things like the Gang isn't living reward payout to reward payout.
And yeah, before leaving Blakk Industries, the guy is getting his hands on anything and everything of use he can, from Blaster and Mecha mods, to every piece of data he can download to help expose and bring Blakk down.
I made an intro to slugterra thingy cause most youtube videos ive seen about slugterra are either ai slop or well-meaning cartoon channels that have done a sane and respectable amount of research but dont have every slugterra fact tatooed into their bloodstream like I do...so boom, a real life human with a voice talking about slugterra.
i have no proper camera but otherwise ive always really vibed w video essay stuff...doesnt mean im good at it, but if i do it more ill probs get better at it! not just about slugterra either, i have hot takes about aspec representation and i accidentally stumbled into the lord of the rings fandom recently, so...hopefully, whatever happens, the rest of my artistic output is only better than this vid and not worse :)
My friend wants to know something and I to want to know as well, this is his question “how come nacho’s the only dark bane to go work for dr. Blakk wouldn’t it be better to have more dark bane in his group? Or did the writers have no time to make more dark bane characters?”
Let us know what you think 🤔
more dark bane come up to help Dr Blakk at the end of "Back to Blakk" - nacho was the only one up at first because a)they wanted to keep the secret of the bark bane in Slugterra for as long as they could, and nacho is the only one (probably) who can shapeshift to look more human, and b) Blakk needed a lot of ghouls to open a portal big enough for several dark bane to go thru at once. The fandom has been calling the 4 other bark bane that came up after back to Blakk plus nacho "the dark bane elite" for a while. Brimmstone stayed in the deep caverns so he could command the army into the portal during the s2 finale - they planned for a huge assault, not a slow trickling of dark bane, especially since they probably planned on causing a great upheaval and overpowering blakk in the confusion.
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Also I HC that Vance and Mario have both wanted to deck Will Shane for nearly a decade since, as popular figures they've always wanted to get in touch and professionally collaborate (Will on the Bravado show and Vance in competitive racing) and Will being shady never responded so they both already hold a grudge over that.
like seriously, they're both the right ages! They could have made their OWN Shane gang, Will and Tom and Mario and Vance!!! Mario and Vance being a decade or 2 younger, but still super useful!
Can you please make a head cannon where Dana, Mario and Vince joined the Shane gang and how would they react after a distant shore pretty please 🥺 I’ll give you an ice cream for this 🍦
Me: *Inhales Ice Cream* Me: offering accepted- I needed a break from making that stupid map anyway-
You know, I've mentioned it before but user {multiversal-madness} dose have a bigger Shane Gang AU, here is a link to one of the posts [X] I recommend checking it out! especially since some of my HC's are influenced by their AU!
[Still working on my fic and big blog post- but brain rot calls-]
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She joins following the faking of her death in 'The Gentleman & The Thief'
Till Dana gets a new wardrobe, she's sharing cloth with Trixie, and she may or may not steal a shirt or two from Eli
[I steal my brothers shirts, their just comfy-]
Eli and Dana develop a sibling dynamic
both their dads where good friend's once upon a time, and with them dead/presumed missing, they bond over that and some other stuff
Dana help's Trixie with editing the Slugisodes
Kord is fascinated by the Short Distance Teleporter Dana had been using, but she keeps that thing out of everyone's reach
because Dana is stuck at the Hideout more often then naught, her only sources of entertainment are, the TV, SlugNet and Pronto
being (fake) dead sucks :(
This is going to be a controversial take, but Eli tells Dana about the Surface.
'The Gentleman & The Thief' takes place after 'A Distant Shore' which is the ep where the rest of the Gang learns the truth that the Surface is real, and I'm pretty steadfast in anyone who joins the gang after not being told, as seen in the Gentleman and Gerhard HC's,
but Dana is the daughter of Tom Por, and Will leaving for the Surface(and Will's dealing with the Shadow Clan) is what caused the rift to form between them. and Eli dose not want to lie to Dana, and dose not want what happened to their fathers to happen to him an Dana.
So Eli tells Dana, and tells her as much as he knows,
Dana is touched that Eli is trusting her with this information, that he trusts her this much despite everything
Trixie and Dana have girl time
goes as well as you would expect
brotherly affection for Eli be damned, Dana will punch, Will Shane
Pronto makes Dana a tomb stone
she's actually really sentimental about it (the tomb stone i mean)
Dana becomes like, the stealth expert of the Gang
Mario would join some time after he's offered the position on the team
like a week-month later
Like however long it takes for 'The New Kid parts 1 & 2' to be done and over
Eli gains yet another Big Brother
Mario will physically get into a fight with Twist when he's seen again
Trick shot practice with Mr. Bravado is a Populer Slugidose series on the Shane Gang SlugNet account
Trick shot practice with Mario is fun in general tbh
Pizza night every Sunday, with home made Pizza
All reasoning be damned, Mario will deck Will Shane
Kord and Mario bond over blaster mods, and slug gear
Trixie enjoys making compilations of the Gangs best shots, and Mario is surprisingly good at video making, so he's constantly helping out in editing the compilations, and even cross posting on his own SlugNet acc
Pronto and Kord get a start of their betting with Eli and Mario way before Junjie happens
during 'A Distant Shor' Mario, just like everyone else is annoyed at Gar, and is telling Eli to leave the mad man alone because nothing good comes from chasseing fairy tails
and just like the others Mario is pissed Eli is not trusting them, and acting so, weirder than normal
then the reveal happens and he is gobsmaked
"I-its real??? The Burning World is REAL?! OH SHADOWS- Th-this is-"
Mario just hug's Eli because, kid just went through so much shit, and destroyed his grate uncle's journal, the one thing that probably had all the answers to all the questions Eli had, just to keep the secret, and them safe-
Mario makes Eli's fave Pizza that night
"I'm a Racer not a Slinger"
*Is given a baster*
*Becomes cowboy*
"what the-"
he joins sometime after 'The Slug Run'
he got fired :( (From Racing)
turns out, giving up the super rare slug prize you where contractually obligated to hand over is a no-no
Sucks as Slug Slinging and requires so many aids to help him shoot good
Vance teaches the Gang a bunch of cool Mecha tricks
Vance makes it a point to teach everyone to ride each others Mecha Beasts, just in case they end up having to switch rides, or commandeer a dif Mecha
he used to do sponsored shows/races were he had to ride different models, and it's not all the same
When they get the Motorbike upgrades Vance is salivating at the mouth
Trixie takes more of an interest in Mecha tricks as compared to the guys
Kord and Vance bond over Mecha's gushing over every new model and mod ever made
Eli get's to help them with maintenance
[he's not allowed to do anything other than tighten bolts, last time they gave him something important to do, Fernando exploded]
Pronto and Vance get into an argument about Fernando
"YOU NEED A NEW MECHA MOLE!"
"FERNANDO HAS SERVED PRONTO LOYALY FOR YEARS!"
they learn to 'agree to disagree' and leave it at that.
Call Eli, Ash Ketchum, because he's got yet another Big Brother
Respect be damned, Vance will punch Will Shane
Much like the rest of the Gang during 'A Distant Shore' Vance is not a fan of Gar
Gar is like an obsessive fan, and Vance hates those kinds of fans
is very concerned about Eli and how weird he's acting in 'A Distant Shore'
At that point in time, Eli has made a name for himself as the Shane so Vance can't help but think Eli is letting the pressure get to him and is making some bad calls, similarly to the one's Vance made early in his career as a racer.
When the truth comes out about the Burning World being real, he can't help but think about how much of a PR nightmare Eli's actions no matter how well indented, were.
He is 100% running damage control and debunking and all of Gar's claims on the SlugNet after the fact or so help him-
He dose ask about the transportation Top Side though
Eli tell's Vance about NASCAR
goes as well as you think it would
okay, I have a hot take that might get me on thin ice.
I like that many of our cool characters aren't reoccurring.
like, it's always felt a bit cheap in a lot of media, that despite a fictional world claiming that the world is so BIG and VAST, all the characters we run into are "important". It's like the skywalker effect in Star Wars - like, one family and one group of acquaintances don't run the show. It makes the work feel small. And don't get me wrong, there's great writing to be had w knowing all the network of important characters to a worlds lore! But in a show like Slugterra, which is decently long but isn't the length of one piece, everyone reoccurring feels hollow to me. I LIKE that Vance is probably important and doing things - or shows to not do anything idk - off screen. I like how we see other slingers only when it's convenient for them - they have lives outside the blakk battles. I like how there's not just 20 important people in Slugterra - there's ALOT of interesting people, and whenever we watch an episode, it's usually someone new showing up, expanding the lore w their prescence then going back to live the lives we headcanon over.
I'm showing a friend of mine the show, and she said something interesting around ep 8: "I never know what's gonna happen in this show." Like, TRUE! We know the gang will be involved, but otherwise, we're uncovering lore, and in that search and those fights, we could run into ANYONE. It's not my hero academia: oh it's the tournament arc, time to see this group of characters. It's not a sitcom - everyone is reoccurring and the wider world doesn't exist. It's a lore expansive universe.
of course we are going to see some acquaintances once or twice, then never again. It's like real life! Which just makes those we keep close that much more important and impactful. Like remember - friend or foe, there's only been 4 characters who CHOSE to not vanish from Eli's life once their buisness in that cavern or tournament was over. I like that. I like that feeling that there's a lot of cool people in the world, and you don't see most of them, but you see as many as you can - and some will even choose, amongst all the other races and battles and underground circuits, to stay by you.
I think we should have seen those characters more - but perhaps doing their own thing, or seeking the Shane out in particular, hence them being plot important. And I think, to not ruin the worldly effect, this would have to be done sparingly, over a long period of time. Slugterra doesn't have that, so...I'm okay, with the canon experience.
I kinda wish Dana was more included. A lot of cool characters just show up for a tiny amount of time and dip forever which is a shame. It’d be cool to see a side plot where she slowly unravels the secrets will refused to tell her dad by snooping on Eli or something
Dana
Twist
Mario
Vance
And like a bunch of other ppl I can't name rn
Are all individuals that should have been seen more.
Honestly yeah, getting to see Dana more would have been awesome, especially if she happened to run into the Gang while they were Secret hunting leading to fun shenanigans
Side plot regarding any of the side characters would have been amazing i wish they pulled a Storm Hawks, and by that I mean have an episode just decided to the Villains/side characters and what they get up too while the Heros are off doing who knows what.
But with such a large cast of characters, it's inevitable some get lost or underutilized, unfortunately.
Especially those who were created to just fill a serten role like Vance or Mario.
Not everyone can be a C.C. fitting whatever role the narrative demands.
My friends and I were just talking about the Shane family tree and we realized it gets a bit confusing.
Like Jimmon Shane from my perspective didn’t have kids ( maybe he did have kids and we never knew about them) yet will being his nephew takes over the Shane name after he retires. But shouldn’t have gone to his will’s father ( Eli’s grandfather) instead so that way it would have been easier to pass down through generation to generation.
Man just thinking about it makes me and my friends head spin 😵💫 Really wish the writers could have done something about this to make it more clear about the family tree.
YES YES IT IS!!!! i actually wrote a fic exploring this a bit called "Burned Away" on ao3 - and it will not be my last time exploring the older shanes. i love them!
My theory actually has to do with Master Shanai. The most likely explanation, disregarding the what-ifs about will's parents dying and whatnot, is that Master Shanai only chooses one student to train - hence, if there's shanes that are cousins/siblings who would take up the mantle in the same era, Master Shanai would choose the most combat-worthy, or who has the most heart, that type of deal. And then the unchosen spend more time on the surface, or specialize in something like tech or recon or just helping where they can (especially as they grow older and gotta care for kids). in Burned Away, I made will's dad the one chosen by shanai and jimmo mainly raised will instead, on the surface ,while his brother (wills dad) was the acting shane, and they would swap out every once and a while. I also made jimmo a nerd about slug biology and health but thats like a complete HC.
Point is, its most likely that theres more shanes, and we just know the ones who were chosen by master shanai. I wrote that fic for drama and all, but its much more likely that jimmo was the chosen pupil, but had a brother/cousin and they had a kid, and in the next generation, it was nephew will shane who would be chosen next. This actually makes more sense than just "the kid gets it" - it makes sure the most promising shane gets the title and if any of them turn evil shanai just wouldnt choose them. I think this is how the shanes have lasted so long. though, what has happened to make it so the family tree has dwindled and will had ONLY eli left for the next generation of shanes...that lies in HC territory.
Imagines the Slugs pop up in Gravity Falls?
I'm just imagining gravity falls having The Drop....yeah, that makes sense.
I think if they showed up without any talking slugterrans the slugs would just be seen as another creature/monster/anomally. Plus, if they stay in protoform, how would the town even know they can transform? they'de be kept secret well there, tho. They'de be a footnote in that towns history tbh. Out of all the places on the surface to know about the slugs, or even Slugterra, gravity falls is like best case scenario.
(btw I haven't watched it in like 7 years and barely remember it it's on my rewatch list - sorry if I'm forgetting stuff)
JUNJIE X ELI! this is only ch2 - i split up this chap so this is more of the bromance chapter but i hope yall enjoy all the same
im so powerful when i procrastinate -
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i made him close some plot holes instead............
I'm sorry........Maurice, my beloved........
Pronto absolutely sleeps with incense burning. This is important for Pick Your Table Chapter 2. What scents would be his favorite?
Currently, I think he likes Lavendar candles. Would he also like earthly-toned smells? Or maybe he'd like high-class-sounding smell names? any answers yall give ill probably name drop in the fic, thx yall :)
HC: certified doctors in Slugterra have to pass an upper body physical test purely because in order to treat cave trolls they must be able to treat them without need of helpers - without being hindered by lack of arm strength.
You think different species like cave trolls and humans need different means of cpr? Pronto hears thru his nose and has his heart in his butt so I assume that's def different, humans are smaller than cave trolls so do cave trolls only use one hand for adults like how humans do for human childern cause of their pure strength? The list goes on
I would think so!
Humans already need different CPR. Till age 8, you perform CPR ment for kids on children, and after 8, you perform adult CPR.
Child CPR has you delivering 5 hard open palm blows to the back, followed by a two finger chest compreshion, while they are angled downward at like 45°, you already have to use one hand on a kid.
For adults (8 and above-weird, i know, but that's what I was taught-) you do regular CPR, and if needed/available, you bust out the AED
The AED will periodically shock the system to stimulate the body and tell whether or not the heart has started again. It will guide you through the motions and even has a button to switch to child mode to give instructions on providing CPR to a child.
There is also the fact other devices, like a oxygen mask might be in play as well depending on the situation.
With that in mind, and the fact that different species have different overall biology, it would make sense that there are different protocols when giving CPR to different residents of the Caverns.
Humans are straightforward, but for a Cave Troll to give a human CPR they would have to dile back their strength, CPR already risks the braking of ribs as is. Same when it comes to Elf's, they are humanoid, and Moleinoids, and their weird ass biology.
Whoever a Cave Troll must tend to medically that isn't another Cave Troll, they would have to be very mindful of their strength. So yeah, I would agree/assume they only use one hand when dealing with someone that isn't their own kind
As for a Human, Elf or Moleinoids preforming CPR on a Cave Troll, they would have to use as much strength and they could, or find another Cave Troll.
I would bet there are different AED devices made for the different types of residents of the Caverns, the Cave Troll one delivering more of a shock than the one for Humans, Elf's and Moleinoids.
And you know what? Let's take it up a notch and include slugs. Hypothetically speaking, if a slug here to need CPR, i would think it would follow the child rules, two finger chest compreshions and a blow to the back. Probably with not as much power, since they are so small.
haha, love it! Ur so right. I'd just like to add a brief HC;
so I'm a rifle instructor at a gun range for a junior club. At the end of our sessions the instructors pick up the shells - only the ones to be reused or sold as scrap, though. It's possible that depending on the material (being biodegradable or valuable) slingers would just leave it there.
furthermore (this is probs wack to the average person oops) a lot of kids like going into the firing range (WHEN THE RANGE IS COLD) to help clean up the shells, and it's not uncommon that when a kid sees a cool looking one (it's big, it's dirty, it's dented, it's neon pink, it's green, it was rare ammo, it was EXPENSIVE ammo, the shape is funny) they'll pick it up and keep it as a keepsake. I got a few from my own junior days. (Just please, please wash you hands after touching ammo shells. Cold water. Must be cold water. 30 seconds. Soap. Orange Non-lead soap if you can. Lead exposure is NOT FUN.)
so....new hc, I think kids in Slugterra pick up shells for fun, plus they are useful when getting older and they're learning how to shoot. But if they're really well-working or expensive, or could be sold for scrap, the slingers themselves go through great lengths to get back their shells. (Not to mention - the rarer the gun (like Eli's), the less compatible the chamber is to the average shell., unless shell and chamber sizes and blaster force have been following a set standard across blaster shops for decades already). They would not be laying on the ground for long. You would not believe how obsessed range officers get at their scrap metal deposit side-hussle...the janitor stole the lead my coach was gonna deposit one year...
This has been bugging me ever since I got into Slugterra: Where the hell do slug shells even come from? Do slingers pick them up after duels? Is there a limit to the number of times a shell can used to sling? I have my own ideas but I like hearing other people.
Im dumb when it comes to technical stuff, but for me, these three Slugidoes help when having to think about this kind of thing
[SI-2 Blasters and You]
[SI-6 Slug Retrieval]
[SI-14 A Bried History of Slugslinging]
I SWARE there was a Slugidoe that explained the Shell/Berrals thing, but I might have hallucinated it, or it was explained in an episode briefly-
But the long of my take is that they are manufactured by Balster manufacturers and are used to house slugs while on the move and for loading them into a blaster.
Before Blasters Slingers(and slugs) would use just about anything to help a slug reach their Valosimorph.
The Shells/Berrals are reusable, and depending on the type of blaster you own, it will determine how much of a mess you make in a duel lmao
For instance, there are Gatling typ blasters but they don't fart out Shells/Berrals like a Gatling gun would after firing, the Shells are hooked to the blaster, like a revolver, and rotate, allowing a Slinger to shoot multiple slugs in quick succession, and reload multiple slugs as once, at the disadvantage of it being heavy, and take a bit longer to load.
One Shell/Berrals Blasters, like Eli's typically have you pushing out the previous shell to load in a new one with a slug in it already, but I believe it's been shown a slug can be loaded into a blaster with a Shell already in it and fired.
Over all clean up depends on the situation.
Tournament? Cleaning crew most likely.
Duel against an enemy? Probably collecting them after the fights over, or there probably staying on the ground, see the Episode Bandoler of Brothers for an example of that.
Probably a whole job to go out and collect them.
Overall, Shells/Berrals are a reusable resource, with the only limitations being how many you can carry on your person at a time and what's needed for the model of blaster you own!
I also like to think they are customizable!
Blakk Industries makes red Berrals, though they might just be stained from Dark Water lol
YES YES YES YES YES GLORIOUS ART WHAT AN HONOR YOUR HONOR
[for some context, they are watching a duel between two skilled trick shot duelist]
“I noticed, think something like that could be useful in a head to head shoot out?” Will asked.
“You kidding? misdirection is never not useful Shane,” Tom snorted, “Though, ide say your years off from their level”
“Like you're a better shot!” Will snapped.
“Compared to those two? No way. But you? It's hardly a competition,” Tom snarked with a smirk, as Will gasped dramatically.
“And here I thought we were friends!” Will feigned causing Tom to chuckle.
[Their silly little bros your honor!]
Hey there just read your story and I loved it 🥰 can’t wait for the next chapter😁.
Now for my question: When Dr. Blakk was defeated where did all the other villains go? Not once did I see twist, C.C, John Bull or Blakks other goons after that. What exactly do you think happened?
P.s I keep hearing that we might get slugterra back, but no confirmation yet if it true or not.
Let me know what you think.
aww, thank you so much!!! I'm so glad, it's got me obsessed w writing again :)
I think, in the final battle of s2, Blakk didn't care for them anymore, since dark bane are super powerful - they'd be more useful as cavern enforcers, probably, and we're off-screen being evil that way. after the battle -depends. Cc comes from a rich family and was known as a sport slugslinger - he might've gone back to that, he might be laying low to go back to that in a few years. This is probably true for most of the jock lackeys actually - shooting sports has always been a sport for either the really desperate trying to protect ppl, OR the super wealthy who like wearing thousands of dollars of gear to show off. Twist is...well, I explore it in ch2 (already deep into it), but essentially, it comes down to if he's redeemed, and when. Maybe he wasn't at the citadel but super loyal. Maybe he planned to rh. After master shanais murder. Or maybe he went back to underground foolery, as he did pre-the new kid, I associated w Blakk but still in organized crime. What is certain is that, after s2, twist had been publically for Blakk, like Maurice - both of them would need ALOT of help branching out of the underground due to their reputations. So they'd stay there... unless some fanfic writer used their unclear future as a way to breach the plot hole of how the goon got into the deep caverns..............stay tuned for ch2
And Imma be so real - I'm not holding hope for them coming back. Nerd corps is gone, and I couldn't watch ascension - not because of the animation, because it did something slugterras never done - go with the boring plot line. Like really, no kord or pronto, delving into slug biology instead of EVERYTHING ELSE, and bringing back blakk for a NOT good reason? It strips the heart of the original show. It would take a lot of money and good intentions to continue the show decently, and god help me, this shows been so LUCKY with not having any contradictory lore - get the wrong writers, and it'll break like a cheap pencil. So it could come back...but I'll be building up my ao3 regardless. I'll take the Slugterra canon into my own hands, and keep it alive through my fun obsession with it, side by side w all my homies online who wanna do the same :)
im being so real:
i think pronto abandoned the mole king business because his brother was supposed to be king and he was free to do anything he wanted but then his brother died (why will shane knew "pinto" and not "pronto" - duh, pinto had to be important to mole society) and he had to take the crown...but from mourning and hating the job he ran away.
Speaking of moleniod is it weird we still haven’t seen pronto twin brother like at all? Like he was mentioned but that was about it, no photo or flashbacks, nothing of the source.
I feel like if the show had kept on going we would have seen something right?
I think so?
Personally, I think it's funny when characters drop info like having a twin, and it's never explained further or played out like a massive gag, lol
My personal crack theory is that Sedo is actually Prontos twin, but Pronto refuses to call him his brother in public and that Sedo isn't even Sedo's real name, its like, Armando or some shit but he changed it for whatever reason.
Pronto acknowledges and tells people he has a twin brother but never says it's Sedo. Sibling rivalries, am I right?
Is all seriousness had the show continued they could have shoe horned Prontos Twin as a one-time character and never bring him up again.
It would be chaos for the Gang because 'Dear Shadows- there's now two of them'
All in all, the creators had a setup for a plethora of fun stuff they could have done, like the Twin being evil, or chill, or hell a better tracker than Pronto causing some jealousy and leading to a fun little lesson about being good enough as is or something along those lines.
the more will shane discourse the better!
Chat if you know what SlugTerra is,, I FW YOU SO HARD DUDE..
I'm gonna smooch yah if you also adore this fandom, literally my childhood.. This and NINJANGO,, and a bunch of other cartoons
blehh,,
I also made a slug oc sooooooo yippee!!
I wrote this in about 24 hours.
i scare myself sometimes.
ch1 is Twist x Eli, ch2 will be Junjie x Eli. Eli is very aspec. Twist is very morally fragile. i cried twice writing this. i forgot to eat. i couldn't sleep.
so yeah chapter 2 will come out...at some point. Enjoy!
I'm a tad apologist. I love the HELL out of Tad being Blakk's kid because a)it adds some damn horrifying context to will Shane and Blakk's history (how he know about the surface, was he up there???) and b) It thematically makes the blakk family feel like a threat to the Shane LEGACY, not just to two Shane's of 2 eras. let's be so honest - Tad just needed more time. Like, imaging if the show ended after ghoul from beyond? We'd all have much of the same complaints about Junjie and the eastern caverns, knowing little about them as they effect everything of the lore we've learned up till that point. But then they spend some wonderful 30+ eps on the topic and hey, Junjie is now everyone's wife. So...
yeah I think if they had more time, we would've gotten so much of the surface talk, and it would have pushed Eli's character by miles.
It’s so strange to think that like…on an inherent level Tad and Eli would understand each other better than anyone else in slugterra regardless of their surface experiences or whether they like each other. I know they’re probably from the same area, but even in the off chance/AU where they aren’t, large cultural phenomena are going to be shared (e.g. memes, movies, tv shows, music, pop culture in general) as well as general information (I kinda headcannon that things like the age of the earth are unknown/miscalculated just because they don’t have rocks from 4 billion years ago to date, they don’t have fossils from the Cambrian explosion etc. You can know everything about gravity and light and physics but know nothing about biology just because it’s more physical evidence based than mathematical recreation) and finally shared experiences (similar school systems, being allowed to do x at y age etc).
I know a lot of the fandom don’t like tad for various reasons, but there’s so much to work with in terms of Eli finally having someone he can just say shit like “do you think the king of sling would like Elvis music?” And just be UNDERSTOOD. Being understood would probably heal something in Eli’s soul because he just hasn’t had that in YEARS. The gang are nice and well meaning, but the whole slugmas episode made it really clear they don’t share the same culture or experiences as Eli, on some level, they genuinely can’t understand or relate to him because of that. They’re his friends, they’re his family, but they’re not the same.
Idk man, something about the one person who could truly know you on a level others can’t just does something to me
I don't think it's strange at all. In fact, it adds a strange, yet sad, i wana say charm? When you go back as re-watch the show with this kind of context and mindset.
Eli, to us, acts rather normal and makes references to things we get on occasion, but compared to everyone else in cannon, it's weird and doesn't make sense.
There has been more than one occasion in the early episodes when Eli says something the others give him an odd look. For instance, Eli mentioned Halloween in DeadWeed, and because Slugterra doesn't have a Halloween/anything equal to it, it's a weird thing to say, and Eli has to lie about it.
For an entire year, even after telling the Gang about the Surface, Eli Shane basically has to keep a part of himself locked away. Sure he can talk to the rest of the team about his home up top, but it's not the same as actually talking to someone about something familiar.
Slugterra may be his home now, but it will never change the fact he used to belong topside, and that try as he might, there are going to be things he misses.
So when Tad comes along, it's not just a new friend, or member, it's a connection to a world he cut himself off from. And Eli is so excited by notion of having someone to talk to, that he can relate to on a more personal level. Talk about holidays, sports, video games ect-
But a sad fact to that is that Eli has been gone a year, which means Tad is going to bring up things he had no idea even happen in the year he's been in Slugterra.
So, while it's awesome to talk to someone who can truly understand you, it doesn't change the fact that there is a disparage in common information or even interests, for that matter!
A lot can happen in 12 months. And while people can live on the same block, they experience things differently.
It doesn't change the fact that Eli is genuinely happy to have Tad around and a part of the gang because he gets to talk to someone like him and share his experiences. Form a different kind of bond.
This is why it probably hurts even more when Tad betrayed the Shane Gang when compared to Twist.
...it took 11k words to introduce junjie into the juneli fanfic....
shanes get hurt's next chapter keeps feeling overwhelming, so im writing a long one-shot next to it. and i genuinely think this one will be done before shanes get hurt.
on the bright side, i finally get to do something ive never truly done in any of my stories:
explore twist's character.
strap in, folks. im writing a past-twist/eli, current eli/junjie fic, and since i don't feel the perfectionist urge w it nearly as much as SGH, its gonna be out...soon...
i'm not writing this exact scene, but i am writing something very similar.
...lowkey, ive been writing for 12 hours straight....
Going back to the questions that tad and twist are in how much you want to bet that when junjies comes to visit and brings his master with him ( to see the western part) twist instantly gets ptsd just from seeing her?
Yes
Twist is not okay he has not been okay, and seeing Junjie's Master, Lian is not helping him.
Obviously, he knows they are different people, but they look alike. And for the entire visit, Twist can't look Lian in the eyes and does not want to be left alone in a room with her.
He needs therapy so badly
Eventually, I think he gets cornered and has a mini breakdown about his part in what happened to Unbeatable Master Shanai and his overall guilt.
shanes get hurt's next chapter keeps feeling overwhelming, so im writing a long one-shot next to it. and i genuinely think this one will be done before shanes get hurt.
on the bright side, i finally get to do something ive never truly done in any of my stories:
explore twist's character.
strap in, folks. im writing a past-twist/eli, current eli/junjie fic, and since i don't feel the perfectionist urge w it nearly as much as SGH, its gonna be out...soon...
a distant shore is such a good episode GOD
and actually, does this help explain Pronto's weird actions in slugfu showdown? Maybe the Shane gangs gotten used to just BLASTING their actual activities/unnecessary noise on the slugnet to cover for any burning world catastrophes that, when they got the elementals, pronto was like "why should we keep this a secret??? it'll confuse people, maybe they'll start to think the shane secrets were about the elementals??? I was throwing them off!" And like, still not the smartest, but a better explanation!!!
Do you think after the events of a distant shore that the Shane gang developed a shared excuse for what the Shane secret is? Like in case they ever get put in another Gar situation, they all have a shared lie that the bad guy ™️ can cross reference separately between them and get the same story
E.g . They’ve all decided that the fake Shane secret is that there’s a secret 100’th cavern and the only way to get there is with a shadowclan escort (explains why will had that shadowclan stuff and where the Shanes disappear to)
Considering how Eli was acting and the fact Gar more then likely spilled the Journal belonged to Jimmo Shane, yeah, they probably came up with a fake Shane Secret to cover for the real one as a just in case measure.
Granted the majority of Gar's highered help turned on him the moment Eli destroyed the Journal, it doesn't erase the fact a Shane went out of their way to stop whatever Gar was doing, steal something of value and then burn it to ash to prevent others from reading it.
Let alone the fact that something of value being the Journal of a former Shane, and possibly containing the answers to anything about Slugterra or the Shane family.
No doubt Gar posted, and is still posting what he knows on the SlugNet, and other Burning World truthers as well. And this isn't covering the potential in universe crack theory that spawned from Elis actions in A Distant Shore that the Shane's have a connection to the Burning World because why else would a Shane risk everything like that if it wasn't important?
The gang going out of their way to cover it up further and make fake leads is a real possibility.
They would want to create as much doubt and spread as much false information they can in the aftermath of something like that. Maybe even make a few fake accounts and post nonsense on speculation sights to throw ppl off.
one of my fav things to thing about is why the Shane's were entrusted w the surface knowledge. Like I have a bunch of theories, many of which I will write on ao3...eventually.
the Shane's could've done what Yang did, only in the context of native Americans/settlers in the new world who needed to escape the surface for whatever reason. The Shane's could have used to be kinda evil, using surface knowledge to give themselves money and power and keep a hold of Slugterra, till one generation decided to be heroes instead. Maybe the portals were used and the worlds knew of each other, but then some big war w the SC and dark bane closed off all their hope of conscious peace, so the shadow clan allowed only the families they trusted to know and keep track of everything and foil any plans of integration. And MAYBE, this is why the shadow clan and master shanai don't exactly worship the shame name; they consciously make Eli prove his worth of being a shane that can do that, and will choose others if necessary. But yeah, they separated a looooooong time ago.
but the cool things is that we're playing with THOUSANDS OF YEARS of history. All THREE can be canon. Maybe the Edwardian Shane's fucking sucked and killed people. Maybe the Shane's during the colonial era saw native Americans and woman prosecuted and were like "bro u wanna run away? we can help!". ....you know what just happened, w me writing this out? If the Shane family has been strictly blood relations and Eli's fam goes back 2k years, Eli has to be Native American.
wAIT MAYBE THATS WHY THE SHANES SUPER CLOSED OFF THE SURFACE, LIKE THEY SAW PPL GETTING REALLY SICK 1400S ONWARD AND THEY DIDNT WANT A PLAGUE OF MEASLES TO TAKE OUT SLUGTERRA. okay this took a turn.
what is this reblog I'm so sorry
Is there any sort of fannon (or even better, cannon) timescale for slugterra? Everyone in the 99 seems to have genuinely forgotten what the surface is like, which would take a while. There are irl stories that use constellations that mention stars that don’t exist anymore, stars have died before we forgot. Not to mention the weirdly accurate visuals Gar had of surface cities. So does anyone know when the 99 caverns officially got “cut off” from the surface?
Was it a really really ancient separation that’s only been blurred once the Shane’s went down (or came up??? Idk) hence Gar’s accurate poster visuals? Like the “first Shane” just blabbed cause they didn’t realise that mixing the two worlds could be harmful? And their ancestors have just been eternally doing PR cleanup? Or was it a recent cut off that people have forgotten super fast somehow??
Trixie mentions in 'A Distant Shore' that her mom used to tell her stories about the 'Burning World'
ive always been under the impression that all myths and stories hold some truth to them, but over time the details get exaggerated, lost or changed to fit a given narrative the story teller wants to tell.
so while im not 100% sure about cannon info on the timeline of the Caverns and Surface being separated, I would bet it had something to do with the Terra Portals, Shadow Clan and the Dark Bane.
If the Surface and Slugterra interacted, there would be old text's, but because it's in an old language no one speaks and the art left over would be vague as hell, and there have probably been hundreds of artistic interoperations of what the Burning World might look like over the years, so the illustrations Gar has are probably his, and where most likely influenced by the pictures in Jimmo's journal depending on when he got it.
As for the Shane's, I think there one of a handful of people who know the full truth, and shared the story in full for generations.
this is a personal HC, but-
I think there was a war of some kind involving the people of Slugterra/Surface, the Shadow Clan and Dark Bane, hundreds of years ago, one that separated the Eastern and Western Caverns(Possibly a Northern and Southern Caverns as well), and caused the Terra Portals to become largely inactive for the most part, and in the aftermath the Surface and Caverns where left separated, but before contact was fully cut the Shadow Clan entrusted seiten people with the knowledge of how to get back underground because of what they did during the war to protect Slugterra, the Shane's being one of those families. over the years, more and more families forgot, or died out, leaving the Shane's one of the very few and possibly only ones that take the drop and still protect the Caverns all theses' hundreds of years later
again, pure headcannon with no real evidence
its a crazy rabbit whole to go down, and I would like to hear others thoughts on it from the community!