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Theory: The Newgrounds attack takes place On October 2nd, immediately after Dark and Chosen escape.
I’ve touched upon how I think the Timeline is a little wonky in this regard before, but I just couldn’t stop thinking about it.
And I think I’ve figured it out.
When Victim first escapes Alan’s PC, he first goes to Yahoo.
I even made a joke about it in my last post, about how Alan’s taken the piss out of Yahoo before.
But, well, that previous time?
The Flashback.
But moreso: Yahoo is the first thing Chosen and Dark are shown attacking during the Flashback.
Both Victim AND Chosen and Dark end up at Yahoo after they escape.
And there might be a reason for it:
Alan’s PC was originally tethered to Yahoo. [It also seemed to have an offshoot connection to MSN, which it took me an hour to identify that logo as I was unfamiliar with it.] That was the primary webstring (tunnel, but I wanna call them webstrings bc world wide web) to his IP box. And His IP only originally has one webstring coming out of it.
Until Victim does...Whatever THIS is. And causes ALL OF THE IP addresses to become tethered to the Outernet directly.
[Victim not being uploaded anywhere and coming directly from a PC in a rocket made of computer program parts might have significance on why the Barrier became connected to the IP Boxes, but that’s a different theory for another day.]
So currently, Alan’s PC has two connections to it: One that leads to Yahoo/MSN, and another that leads directly to the Outernet.
We all assumed that Chosen and Dark went right to the Outernet when they left his old PC, because it was implied that that tunnel was the same one Chosen had COME from and that he and the Color Gang were currently going through; a webstring that does spit them out into the Outernet.
But they didn’t.
Dark and Chosen did not go through the Outernet webstring.
They went to through the YAHOO webstring.
I refuse to believe it’s a coincidence that they ended up on Yahoo first, or just happened to choose to attack Yahoo first, when Yahoo is shown to be directly connected to Alan’s IP box.
They never went to the Outernet. They went from Alan’s PC DIRECTLY TO Yahoo.
Which means that the first part of the Flashback is showing the events of what Chosen and Dark did IMMEDIATELY after they escaped.
Yahoo was the first place they were spit out into, so they decided to destroy it too. Why not? They just literally got done destroying Alan’s computer, why not wreck more human shit?
Victim and Chosen/Dark’s paths differ after Yahoo.
Victim goes to Runescape, then Myspace, to the Singh Family IP Box, where he crashes out of and into GracesPC, where he’s taken to Newgrounds, and then he crashes into the Outernet.
Chosen and Dark, if the Flashback showed their complete journey, went from Yahoo, to Angry Birds, to StickPage, to Newgrounds.
The websites are shown to have dozens, if not hundreds of webstrings attached to them. Each leading to different places: other websites, other programs, other IP Boxes.
It’s totally possible that Dark and Chosen just went through a different webstring than Victim did to end up at Angry Birds instead, especially if they stopped to destroy Yahoo. Victim just made a (somewhat straight) shot through. But they could have just picked an exit at random.
I made a diagram for it:
It this theory is true, then it implies that StickPage is the first time both Dark and Chosen are seeing other living stick figures besides each other.
And that some HUGE implications.
Do Chosen and Dark realize what they’re doing, when they’re attacking stick figures?
Do they understand that other sticks are alive like them? That other sticks can be hurt, that they can feel pain? Do Chosen and Dark have a concept of death? Do they even realize they’re causing death to the sticks they’re attacking?
Dark was literally just created THAT DAY. How much does he know? How much does he understand?
How much knowledge does a stick figure possess, innately, when they’re created?
Chosen has been alive for 4 and a half years, but he’d been imprisoned and enslaved. He’d never seen another stick figure before Dark. All he knew was fighting, being forced to destroy pop-ups, and trying to escape. Does HE know the nature of other living things? Does HE know how to behave towards others of his kind? Does HE understand the concept of death?
Dark was made to kill Chosen, and the first moments of his life were spent attempting to fulfill that purpose. And then he went immediately into destroying the computer. And then immediately into destroying websites.
Dark had nothing to teach him that wanton destruction and mass murder wasn’t okay to do. He and Chosen simply did them, and he found he liked doing them. He didn’t have a moral compass to tell him it was wrong, and he didn’t have the opportunity to properly develop one. There was no resistance to prevent him from becoming a psychopath who enjoyed hurting and killing other living beings.
Because Chosen certainly wasn’t stopping him. Not yet, at any rate.
But Chosen...Chosen was older. Chosen had experienced different things from Dark. Chosen probably experienced pain and fear at Alan’s hands. (Victim’s backstory has got me fully doubting that Chosen was just left to twiddle his thumbs when he wasn’t being used as a pop-up blocker. Alan hurt Chosen too. Chosen just probably never died from it.) Was that enough to give him the basis for a sense of morality? Enough to instill him with the ability to empathize?
Is that why Chosen pauses, when Mitsi dies? Is he starting to realize the full consequences of their actions? That they’re killing sticks?
Or does none of this even matter? Was Dark made from the start to be an evil psychopath and that’s why he is the way he is? Was Chosen made ‘normal’ and simply chose to be an asshole because he was angry?
How much of it is their nature vs their lack of life experience?
This might be the reason why Chosen is participating in the Newgrounds attack. It’s so early into HIS life that he hasn’t had those changes to his morals yet. This might be the START of that change. The instigating event. The things that start causing him doubt his own actions, that eventually blooms into distaste and guilt. That eventually allows him to see that Dark’s behavior isn’t right.
That allows him to recognize his own behavior isn’t right.
The Flashback attacks have set in motion the divide between them on what their characters eventually become: Chosen develops a sense of morality, Dark does not.
Both the party and the Flashback attacks are happening on October 2nd, 2011, mere hours after Chosen and Dark have escaped.
There IS one potential snag to this theory, and that's the escape portal.
And that is, admittedly, a massive one.
That LOOKS like a Chosen-made portal. It even makes the same sounds as the ones in The Virus and The Chosen One Returns did.
But we never see nor hear what a 'normal' entrances/exit to a website looks like. We see Victim exiting them in side profile, not as they look from the surface level.
It's very possible that Chosen is just opening up the entrance into a webstring when he makes his portals.
The webstring to the Outernet already exists. He's not MAKING a connection, just opening a door.
And a webstring from Newgrounds to the Outernet ALSO already exists.
That's what I think the escape portal is, this webstring that was made when Victim fundamentally changed the entire fabric of digital reality by complete accident. Dude had a busy day that day.
Honestly, I don't think even The Chosen One has the ability to MAKE webstrings. They seem like they're fundamental connections across the internet that had been pretty well established before Victim did his thing. And that was a MASSIVE amount of energy that was released to create those new webstrings.
The entire way the internet digital space works feels very cosmic to me. Like some massive inspiration was taken from the universe in it's design. The IP Boxes look like stars, the websites planets, and they sheer nothingness in between feels like a vacuum.
I don't think it's IMPOSSIBLE to make new webstrings [I actually theorize Dark figured out how to do so with the cliff side portals] just...
Beyond Chosen's ability to do so himself.
Hence: the webstring between Newgrounds and the Outernet.
The wobbly weird-sounded hole in the ground might just be what they look like naturally. Or someone else opened it. We have no confirmation that's an ability unique to Chosen.
So that's my theory. Chosen and Dark never went to the Outernet before they started their rampage. They rampaged, and THEN probably went to the Outernet.
Where they probably got stuck, for at least a little bit. Cuz, y'know, the Sky Barrier is solid. (Also hey Signh Family IP)
You sure did cook vroski!!
This small little moment is SO important to me now that we have context, their bond is so important to me I swear
Defeated (AVA, ep 10)
chat, i cooked
Oh, ohhh my poor vv...
Something I noticed in Showdown
There's one tiny scene in Showdown that always facinates me. After RGBY were all killed in front of TSC's eyes, his reaction was very interesting.
He did not charge at TDL blindly in grief and rage, he did not break down crying for his friends, he did not dwell on his friends' deaths at all. Instead, he turned to TCO immediately.
When he saw Chosen was surrounded by the swarm of Virabots, he still reached out a hand towards Chosen, then promptly got pierced in the back by Dark's virablades.
For me, this tiny detail made Second different from those typical fearless, hotheaded anime protagonists. This scene alone made Second a fleshed out, realistic character more than anything else in the entire season.
Yes, of course he grieved for his friends' death, but at that very moment, the fear for his own life surpassed everything else. He saw that powerful monster brutally murdered all his friends, and he knew he's going to be next. So he reached out to the only person he knew that could save him, and made a desperate plea:
"Please, help me. I don't wanna die."
Second was many things. He was a talented animator, an insatiable learner, a brave leader, a seasoned warrior. But at that very moment, on the brink of real, permanent death, he was just a scared child calling someone, anyone, for help.
And that made his conscious decision to protect Chosen all the more powerful, because it shows how brave Second really is. He knew his chance against Dark was minimal, he was scared, terrified even, but he still chose to put himself between Chosen and Dark, just because it was the right thing to do.
And that is true bravery. Bravery doesn't mean the absence of fear, it means feeling the fear, but choose to do it anyway.
a lil yuri chodark doodle before i sleep
Been thinking about Agent for a while and how he's really the character - character ever. I'm really enjoying what they're doing with his arc of survivors' guilt and vengeance.
His design is so extensively simple that it's a bit intimidating. Glued to his profession of business and fixated on his target, Chosen. He is as stern as he is anonymous as a person. And then it's with appeal that you note how he is in this position of authority between these new cast of animations - primarily the word of command and the follow up of Victim's line of leverage. With how gorgeous and elaborate the cast is, your eyes stay intrigued towards this one character. Despite the simplicity he pops up as unique.
It's rather how he's always the bold and center of the cast in every shot. Always held high with precision. He acts as the voice of control in the animations; a carrier. He has a strong passion for his ambitions. And then you get to his objective for Chosen, but with the longer the sequences carry on, it appears as more.. personal when referenced towards his role of precise profession. Especially in comparison to the rest of the group.
And of course; his abilities with the Adobe tools. He's fast, strategic, intelligential, and quite proud of his judgement. He pirouettes around combat with such ability - you can beg that he has much experience. All the animations have such uniqueness and natural abilities and quirks. And then you have Agent; who comes just as skilled in compliment despite the set of tools being just an add on towards his attire. His great combat makes up for the comparison. But with such a manner, why would Agent gain such a material, and how come him as this executive messenger and leader out of the cast? When factually compared to their abilities, he's left as the most.. uninspiring.
But then you get to the topic of his relationship with Victim, and suddenly the idea becomes much more clearer. Agent being this predecessor of delivery. How he is noticeably walking in the same accuracy as Victim; side by side. Everyone else but behind. And Victim allows it. He's moreso comfortable with Agent out of the entirety; directly giving him more flexibility, space, authority and commands. He trusts him and he treats him as though he's on the same level as him, because that's what he believes. Everyone else below their invisible barrier. Agent is very evident with what he's given. Hyperaware of his surroundings and with the implements and gear.
With such bounded delicacy it pushes scenarios and questions. Who is Agent without his occupation in mind, but as a person. What is he like? Or rather much, was he like? If you ask me, I think it's worth asking as much as it is cryptic in context.
And then it strikes you all too somber.
As a role of a security guard for Victim, Mitsi and their blooming business of quick and improved repairs - he's still so expressive. And surprising enough, he's so, so close towards the couple despite his working position. He truly admires and cares for the two. And it's mutually returned. It's so oddly affectionate when steaming from someone who you familiarize as so utterly closed off and precise.
These strange origins passed off as he's stranded - downright frozen in fear from the terrorism and murder of Mitsi and hundreds (if not thousands) of others. Only looking up when it's directed towards the source, Chosen. (From his perspective after all.) And despite being someone of a role who does nothing but help and protect; he's left so small and useless. All he can do is run.
Time and time again, memories replaying over and over again. It's this obsession. Everything that he could of done in a loop, everything that he didn't do lingering close by. And he won't be that same person who does nothing.
Even when it's not at all his fault. Far from it.
And then everything just.. clicks in a way, no? His odd relationship with Victim, Victim's utter trust in him, his personal introduction and conflict with Chosen, his strict combats, his weaponry?
When you think Agent would stem from a place of deep turmoil and lament and act out towards these, he proves you wrong. He's so utterly petty, cocky and a bit immoral when finally opposed to a scenario of karma. When you think he stepped an area of low, he goes lower. It's honestly quite humorous. In my opinion, Agent's greatest offense is Second.
Agent is relentless when it comes to irrational interference, it shows in how he handles Second. He has no basic compassion or regard for the poor kid, nor any sympathy to spare for him either. He's ruthless. There was no other reason to humiliate and tease Second the way he does other than it being for his own satisfaction after finding out Chosen cares for him. And it's quite sad even.
And then, really? The huge, intimidating terrorist who was the source of sleepless nights, trauma, destruction and such influence is an irrational, confused fraud. His hazard reaction brings some odd amusement towards Agent.
An evident narrative callback is how Agent looks up towards Chosen, frozen. Under his reign, he's powerless. And now when finally up against this source, he can only ever look down on him.
Sometimes I beg if Agent can bitterly empathize with Chosen. The only difference being how Chosen is strong willed and desensitized - willing to push bounds if it means he can protect a loved one. Something that Agent can reminisce with. Envy of the audacity, it really reeks. And he freezes him on spot; a bit similar to how he was that day. It doesn't feel good, now does it.
But at the same time he leaves it up for Victim. He really holds him valuable and prioritizes him. It wouldn't be much of a stretch to say it roots from a place of guilt of the downfall of the buisness, or Victim's utter change in demeanor, or the thousands of suffering animations from the tragedy. But I'm getting ahead of myself.
In this very small way, he's a bit like him.
HOLY SHIT BABES WAKE UP MY FAULT 15 DROPPED
My Fault (part15)
First part / Previous part / Next part
YAY MY FAVORITE POLYCULE happy holidays and I'm gonna throw myself off a cliff now
Tired of people referring to Agent as a cop. My wife would never??? Babygirl is a security guard and I will die on this hill
Adding nuance in Navy and Orchid
Me and a friend had a nerd voyage about Navy and Orchid, and Paw brought up their cameo in AVA11 - Victim, in which I never previously considered—and it generally got me thinking about their relationship in compliment of the Newgrounds Tragedy. It had me contemplating about what if, rather the Newgrounds Tragedy was responsible for their substantial regression. What went wrong? I really would have never even begun to compose my thoughts if it weren't for him, so all credits!
Navy and Orchid's relationship is especially interesting to me as they were written and programmed to persist as these ideal, beautifully in love couple who attend towards their child. It's on the thumbnail of their uploaded file after all. All 3 of them in the frame! Protective and adoring arms wrapped around Purple.
Now, the timeline of this is a bit rough.
Purple in the thumbnail appears as though he's rather young. I can safely conclude that he is roughly around the same height as the first combat sequence in his presented backstory in AVM29 - Note Block Universe. The thumbnail provides some context that their story was perhaps on-going.
Navy being written as this character who gives strict but positive practices on combat towards Purple. Giving encourages. Orchid being a kind, lighthearted and comforting supporter toward this, nothing more and nothing less.
Nothing more because their creator was not given a chance to, that is.
The destruction of their file in the 2011 tragedy forced a sudden halt. An acute awareness that the couple's intervention with each other was nothing but automated; synthetic, leaving a sour taste as one would when your entire reality and purpose is completely shattered. There could be no interference towards their line of written story and code, forcing them to stick with their present (or what is known to them as the present)
No updates, no progression, no development, no further growth. Really, just nothing. Just an uncompleted story that forces the two to endure and carry on where they had been abandoned at. It's not like they have any other choice, just as the thousands of animations beside them.
As mentioned, Navy was loving, but designed with strict authority and boundaries towards training.
Navy's intentions and reasoning towards the sparring is unknown, making me beg the question; does he even know? Was his creator given the time to?
This confusion can host some hostility, oh undoubtedly.
Following with these characteristics in oppose to how he handles the aftermath of the tragedy, Navy engages in being impatient, inconsistent, irrational, eager, pestering, forceful, and downright abusive from the power imbalance in reflex to the instability of not having some designated context or rather purpose. Security.
Orchid, being the timid bystander. Providing comfort and sanctity to Purple every once in a while from a far too rough sparring. She's kind, neutral, observant, and naturally empathetic. But the entire interference leaves this bitter taste as she's nothing more than this role.
And honestly, that is heartbreaking for Orchid, and downright sad. Discomfort of aiding in your child's physical and mental development due to the dreadful profound ability of your unfair positioning does not correlate to not standing up for them at all. She has her priorities of not interfering unless certain that he is being empowered. She does not appreciate power imbalances—and this shows as she rather progresses from present comfort towards near audibility unless firm - and this is where I believe her fatal flaw comes in. Ignorance until positive.
And this shows in Purple, it shows a lot.
She does try her best, yes. She's still very loving, she still really loves Purple. She loves Navy. it's in her code after all. But her noticeable absence speaks volumes that she was attempting to distance herself.
But I find the reasoning to be much more due to Navy than Purple, if I'm being honest.
Navy and Orchid's relationship is surely strange. So in love in contrast to their narrative, then stranded to a rough prevention of their chronology. It doesn't defeat the purpose that they still, very much love each other. But the revulsion that it was nothing but a hoax will leave a agonizing dread in the atmosphere.
But after all, they have nothing else to stick to. Be optimistic with what you're left with, make best out of the worst. They can continue where their unfinished log was unfortunately Interrupted. And it goes as unwell as you would expect.
Hell, Navy's reaction towards these issues definitely encourages a hatred in Orchid and prompt towards distance. She was obviously discouraged from him and his impulses way early on, but the conflict rises when her son is the most vulnerable victim of it, and she does not like this.
Orchid and Navy are a loving bunch but two very different individuals. It wasn't too long until Orchid's comforting, soothing nature began to grow anxious and clash with Navy's raw approaches, outbursts and harsh eagerness. The worst part is that this isn't even Navy's fault.
And this shows. You would think once Navy leaves—she could rest. She could feel secure. She is loose from this lined attire that kept her glued to these strict set bounds; she's ridden of worries, and,
And this is where she proves you wrong. She is guilt-ridden, she's upset. She's left paralyzed, numb, in shock, detached. But why?—Why would she feel this way? Isn't she relieved of the split from the first ever obligated context she was programmed to be with?
Oh.
Ohh,
Ohhh, my poor girl.
And it's such a complexity of being doomed by the (unfinished) narrative. And it's rather the contrasting spectrum of it: the burning hatred of the figure you were made to love vs the boundless affection of how at the end of the day—you were still made to love them. The horrors is inescapable, no matter how much you try to run away from it.
They make me so sick I swear. Holy shit this brought on an idea, Ourps' quinceanera uhhuyg era sick im sick. El Vals pero no Baile de Mama AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I havent had the motivation to work on this in a while so may as well share it
Im going to be honest I dont like drawing the stick figures with anime eyes I just didnt know how else Id be able to render this :'3
ALSO THIS IS NOT SHIP ART!!! THIS IS ART SPECIFICALLY FROM A SOURCE DIVERGENT FICTIVE'S MEMORIES!! its just a bonding moment its not meant to be romantic in any way please dont be weird or accusatory.
that being said
animator vs animation
Many people have wondered who is in the background, the answer to the question is the personification of all those who worked on ava
And old art!
small doodle cuz my art has been in a crash recently
the amount of time i've spent trying to figure out chosen and dark's house is genuinely kinda embarrassing
I even started building rough approximations in the sims 4
all this for what? a few drawings? a fanfiction i probably will never finish????? I DONT EVEN LIKE ARCHITECTURE THAT MUCH???
guys i think i might be a little bit deranged
Everyone's favorite cosmic joke
Idea given to me by @thevisjex
hOW DARE YOU TAKE HIS FLOWER!!
okay? XD
(This is not hate)
OHH I’ve never seen your creations before xd,, so if it seems liek copying i really didn’t -^-" sorry sorry
the similarities are intriguing though
Alternate White lore,,, the red guy is named Sol, he’s White’s ex (in his alternate lore,, in case you did not see tHE FIRST TWO WORDS!! /j)
Hi hello.. tihs is my new sticksona design… PS if you get any plushie designs of your OCs in your inbox tahts probably this feller HLEP
@sxncvut’s OC Invert as a human, in my style :D hope ya like it
made you say underwear!
White’s creator :D ok I gotta stop drawing humans STICKMAN TIME
ALSO drew humanized F1LE1 :) my shaylaaa i love her so much i cant 😭😭😭😭
THATS ACC CORRECT HOW DID YOU GUESS RIGHT ON FIRST TRY
TDL got "killed" by White in the AU unfortunately,,, and his virabands were worn by him 💔💔
Au idea i got from my friend lmao
I am too lazy to explain so i want people to guess what the au is 💥💥
Au idea i got from my friend lmao
I am too lazy to explain so i want people to guess what the au is 💥💥
Humanized white… featuring humanized tdl in doodle form :) (PPL KEEP SAYING HE LOOKS LIKE A PERSONA 5 CHARACTER I CANT)
I was told to make this ;_; people couldn’t tell the difference and thought he acted the same in his alt version